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http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12209136

PRESIDENT Hugo Chávez has long seen his leftist “Bolivarian” revolution in Venezuela as part of a global struggle against a world-order dominated by American imperialism. So the announcement this week that the Russian navy is to conduct joint exercises with Venezuela in the Caribbean later this year is something of a diplomatic coup. It is also a worry for many Venezuelans, who would rather their country avoid big-power politics

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Originally posted by generalissimo
http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12209136

PRESIDENT Hugo Chávez has long seen his leftist “Bolivarian” revolution in Venezuela as part of a global struggle against a world-order dominated by American imperialism. So the announcement this week that the Russian navy is to conduct joint exercises with Venezuela in the C ...[text shortened]... It is also a worry for many Venezuelans, who would rather their country avoid big-power politics
Or as Mr Chávez puts it, “Go ahead and squeal, Yankees.”


Gotta love the guy.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12209136

PRESIDENT Hugo Chávez has long seen his leftist “Bolivarian” revolution in Venezuela as part of a global struggle against a world-order dominated by American imperialism. So the announcement this week that the Russian navy is to conduct joint exercises with Venezuela in the C ...[text shortened]... It is also a worry for many Venezuelans, who would rather their country avoid big-power politics
Ya gotta love Chavez' balls...

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Ya gotta love Chavez' balls...
one could argue it is not balls he is having but rather a shortage of marbles.

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What does the USA expect?

Their "War on Drugs" is a complete failure.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Or as Mr Chávez puts it, “Go ahead and squeal, Yankees.”


Gotta love the guy.
You'd love him only if you're some kind of anti-American fanatic, which you seem to be. However, if you're a normal Venezuelan, you're scared of what he might do next and/or embarrassed by him. As his Bolivian compadre Morales goes down the crapper, it must be very sobering for Herr Hugo who must know that were it not for the high price of oil on the world market, they'd be rioting in the streets of downtown Caracas. The really bad thing (besides the loss of freedoms Chavez has inflicted on ordinary Venezuelans) is that when they do decide they've finally had enough of this ignorant peasant and his erratic behavior (cocaine?), he will have stolen enough money and property to buy a block in Zurich, Switzerland, and live next door to Robert Mugabe and other failed dictators.

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Well, shockingly, I agree with DSR on one thing...Hugo ain't no saint! I think a perfect example is his little "deal" with FARQ. Seems that he sent some money their way. Nice...supporting kidnappers.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Or as Mr Chávez puts it, “Go ahead and squeal, Yankees.”


Gotta love the guy.
I like this line:

"The public response from Washington has been a barely-stifled yawn."

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
You'd love him only if you're some kind of anti-American fanatic, which you seem to be. However, if you're a normal Venezuelan, you're scared of what he might do next and/or embarrassed by him. As his Bolivian compadre Morales goes down the crapper, it must be very sobering for Herr Hugo who must know that were it not for the high price of oil on ...[text shortened]... ck in Zurich, Switzerland, and live next door to Robert Mugabe and other failed dictators.
I admire his guts; there's no reason for the US to pick a fight with this elected President but now that the Bush administration (for its perverse ideological reasons has), he's stood his ground. Good for him.

There's nothing more "anti-American" than the damage your clown President has done to the good name of the US throughout the world for no purpose that benefits the average American.

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Originally posted by spruce112358
I like this line:

"The public response from Washington has been a barely-stifled yawn."
Yup, the idea of Russian naval bases in South America doesn't concern Washington at all.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Yup, the idea of Russian naval bases in South America doesn't concern Washington at all.
they probably think that polish anti missile defense trumps venezuelan naval bases

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
they probably think that polish anti missile defense trumps venezuelan naval bases
Yup, an anti-missile system that is unlikely to ever work is much more useful than warships armed with nuclear weapons.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
I admire his guts; there's no reason for the US to pick a fight with this elected President but now that the Bush administration (for its perverse ideological reasons has), he's stood his ground. Good for him.

There's nothing more "anti-American" than the damage your clown President has done to the good name of the US throughout the world for no purpose that benefits the average American.
Picked a fight? After Cuba, we learned our lesson about toying with dictators. If the U.S. attempted a coup or did anything to Venezuela, it would give this ignoramous legitimacy and that's the last thing he needs.

Regarding you're partisan statement: There's nothing more "anti-American" than the damage your clown President has done to the good name of the US throughout the world for no purpose that benefits the average American," what difference does it make? Leadership is not a popularity contest. If we did whatever we needed to do to get the approval of the world (which isn't a very nice place), then we'd be as weak and effete as the nations in Europe.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Yup, the idea of Russian naval bases in South America doesn't concern Washington at all.
No, we've long since moved on from the Monroe Doctrine and the Cold War. Didn't you get the memo?

Chevez can buddy with anybody he wants -- that doesn't make his semi-proto-subthreshold-dictatorship legitimate and so doesn't change the main grounds for disapproval of him.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Yup, an anti-missile system that is unlikely to ever work is much more useful than warships armed with nuclear weapons.
your unlikely can be applied to the warships as well. i say it is unlikely those warships could travel more than 1 km before they get hit by an iceberg and sink.

and since i have about as much data and facts on which to base my theory as you have regarding the anti missile shield thingie, i say we must be both correct.

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