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The Russian Naval exercises are just a matter of saving face for Medvedev and Putin. Nothing is going to happen and even if things got hot the fight would be over in a hurry. A lot easier for the U.S. Navy to call in the cavalry than it would be for the Russians.

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Originally posted by Zort Boy
The Russian Naval exercises are just a matter of saving face for Medvedev and Putin. Nothing is going to happen and even if things got hot the fight would be over in a hurry. A lot easier for the U.S. Navy to call in the cavalry than it would be for the Russians.
the problem was not who would win in a naval shoutout, the problem was that they could fire nukes.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Show some evidence that Venzuela, Bolivia and Ecuador are becoming dictatorships. All have had very recent, free elections.
http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?story_id=11848940

President Correa of Ecuador dictates his socialist credo in his new constitution

http://www.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2008-02-29-597242794_x.htm?loc=interstitialskip
http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12260915

President Evo morales of Bolivia, and his new constitution,
and how he has divided the country
By the way, Evo Morales is backed by Hugo Chavez (coincidence?)
Mr Chávez has already said that Venezuela would support an “armed movement” in Bolivia if President Evo Morales were overthrown.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?story_id=11848940

President Correa of Ecuador dictates his socialist credo in his new constitution

http://www.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2008-02-29-597242794_x.htm?loc=interstitialskip
http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12260915

President Evo morales of Bolivia, and h ...[text shortened]... Venezuela would support an “armed movement” in Bolivia if President Evo Morales were overthrown.
The first article refers to new proposed constitution that will go to the voters on September 28, That hardly sounds "dictatorial" to me (do you know what the word "dictator" means?)

The Bolivian case concerns another proposed referendum to the country's constitution which certain privileged groups are opposing. Some of these group ares forming paramilitary organizations to resist the legal, elected government and engaging in armed actions against government forces. It would be no more dictatorial to repress treasonous insurrection for Morales then it was for Abe Lincoln but he seems to be responding with restraint (at least for now). That's not very "dictator"-like.

Chavez's support of a fellow elected government against possible foreign instigated revolution (by guess who?) is understandable.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
The first article refers to new proposed constitution that will go to the voters on September 28, That hardly sounds "dictatorial" to me (do you know what the word "dictator" means?)

The Bolivian case concerns another proposed referendum to the country's constitution which certain privileged groups are opposing. Some of these group ares for ...[text shortened]... nment against possible foreign instigated revolution (by guess who?) is understandable.
I know what dictator means (unlike the left-wing scum) ,and don't insult me with that sarcasm pal.

Abraham Lincoln was not trying to impose a socialist state, unlike Mr.Morales.

Chavez's support for Morales is understanble because Morales is in favour of socialism and the ''Bolivarian revolution'', just like Chavez admires Fidel Castro

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Originally posted by no1marauder
The first article refers to new proposed constitution that will go to the voters on September 28, That hardly sounds "dictatorial" to me (do you know what the word "dictator" means?)

The Bolivian case concerns another proposed referendum to the country's constitution which certain privileged groups are opposing. Some of these group ares for ...[text shortened]... nment against possible foreign instigated revolution (by guess who?) is understandable.
The fact that Chavez and Morales were elected does not mean that they can't become authoritarian.

Hitler was democratically elected, and he still became a dictator

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Originally posted by generalissimo
The fact that Chavez and Morales were elected does not mean that they can't become authoritarian.

Hitler was democratically elected, and he still became a dictator
Hitler wasn't democratically elected; he lost the election but was then named Prime Minister by Hindenburg.

In any case, it's possible for an elected leader to become authoritarian but you've yet to produce a shred of evidence that the leaders you are complaining about are becoming so. They seem to be asking the people for the changes they desire which is perfectly compatible with democracy (in fact, it is democracy).