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As I have said, they will hold several hundred Americans, they need stuff, and the only way to get it is from the United States, so they will attempt to exchange hostages for it. I will not venture here what their threats will be, use your imagination, with savages, in your thinking, as your protagonists.
Further, they will select those Americans who are the most important, the most valuable.

So sad.

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@averagejoe1 said
So sad.
And all because your boy Donald freed a couple of thousand criminals last year and let them build a base of operations before tossing the whole sorry mess in Biden's kap.

Sad indeed.

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@averagejoe1 said
As I have said, they will hold several hundred Americans, they need stuff, and the only way to get it is from the United States, so they will attempt to exchange hostages for it. I will not venture here what their threats will be, use your imagination, with savages, in your thinking, as your protagonists.
Further, they will select those Americans who are the most important, the most valuable.

So sad.
Your reaction is pure partisan hackery. This outcome is messy but unavoidable, according to most foreign policy experts who predicted it. The only question was "how messy?". Now we know, because a president finally had the stones to leave. If Trump were president while this was happening, you would be defending America.

Instead, "so sad". That's sad.

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What to do?
Eventually all the main Taliban characters will be in one building: their parliament.

One really can’t have them owning modern Western weaponry.
Morally, one can’t let them take hostages or abuse woman’s rights.
One doesn’t even pretend that they won’t allow anti-Western terrorism to base there.

Of course, the woke amongst us will tell us that they are just different and should be respected. Perhaps we can send the woke to Afghanistan to wake up?

Or perhaps… you know… just nuke them. Not the woke, they’ll be set to whine, but strategically behead them sooner than later.

Perhaps with their first threat… a wee retaliation of sorts.

I mean, it’s not like they’re a force for good in the world. Being religious and all.

Ah. But civilian casualties? Well, it’s not like that’s ever stopped the West before. And let’s be honest, there’s gonna be tons of dead civilians there no matter what happens…

This is what you get when you invade another country. It’s going to get messy and the world is not going to be a better place, no matter what.

Nuke them, I say.

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@shallow-blue said
And all because your boy Donald freed a couple of thousand criminals last year and let them build a base of operations before tossing the whole sorry mess in Biden's kap.

Sad indeed.
Funny, I have not seen that as the reason. Must be on the wrong channel. How do libs know so much more about world events than do conservatives?

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@averagejoe1 said
Funny, I have not seen that as the reason. Must be on the wrong channel. How do libs know so much more about world events than do conservatives?
because they make it up...it is a part of that special world they live in...all the way to the guillotines

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@averagejoe1 said
As I have said, they will hold several hundred Americans, they need stuff, and the only way to get it is from the United States, so they will attempt to exchange hostages for it. I will not venture here what their threats will be, use your imagination, with savages, in your thinking, as your protagonists.
Further, they will select those Americans who are the most important, the most valuable.

So sad.
biden has those people in a position akin to shooting fish in a barrel. imagine the terror of our citizens right now

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@averagejoe1 said
Funny, I have not seen that as the reason. Must be on the wrong channel. How do libs know so much more about world events than do conservatives?
The trump deal released 5000 Taliban prisoners. It’s well known.

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@wildgrass said
Your reaction is pure partisan hackery. This outcome is messy but unavoidable, according to most foreign policy experts who predicted it. The only question was "how messy?". Now we know, because a president finally had the stones to leave. If Trump were president while this was happening, you would be defending America.

Instead, "so sad". That's sad.
Goodness, Wildgrass, so early on in this post and you are already off-issue. What is it with liberals? I don't want to retype the issue, but it is basically that our American citizens are in harm's way. That's all. Did you notice above that Shallow Blue had something trigger in his mind which took him off-track to write like Sonhouse that is is all Trump's fault? Trump is the 5th word in his post....he didn't waste anytime. Nothing about the American prisoners, (Marauder says they are not prisoners)
How bout you and Shallow have a moment of silence for these sad Americans, some of whom are facing death in the face. Dam, why can't you looneys comment on an issue? Lord, I hope Sonhouse doesn't chime in. Query...would you read it? You know...about Trump.

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@shavixmir said
What to do?
Eventually all the main Taliban characters will be in one building: their parliament.

One really can’t have them owning modern Western weaponry.
Morally, one can’t let them take hostages or abuse woman’s rights.
One doesn’t even pretend that they won’t allow anti-Western terrorism to base there.

Of course, the woke amongst us will tell us that they are ...[text shortened]... to get messy and the world is not going to be a better place, no matter what.

Nuke them, I say.
Shallow and Wildgrass, please learn from this properly responsive post by Shav. Thankyou.

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@averagejoe1 said
Shallow and Wildgrass, please learn from this properly responsive post by Shav. Thankyou.
So you think strategically nuking them is the way to go?

How many civilians casualties do you reckon with?
What will be the international fall out?

That’s an interesting one. Will the OPEC nations retaliate with oil embargos?

A serious alternative is going into the Panjshir valley with commando forces. Strengthening the resistence there, arming them to the teeth and doing what the US did to the Russians in the 80’s. But now against the Taliban.

Ultimately, the Taliban is a rebel force and in no real position to actually effectively control a country.

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@shavixmir said
What to do?
Eventually all the main Taliban characters will be in one building: their parliament.

One really can’t have them owning modern Western weaponry.
Morally, one can’t let them take hostages or abuse woman’s rights.
One doesn’t even pretend that they won’t allow anti-Western terrorism to base there.

Of course, the woke amongst us will tell us that they are ...[text shortened]... to get messy and the world is not going to be a better place, no matter what.

Nuke them, I say.
I am going to agree with Shav, since I have no friends here anyway. Nuke them, and, yes, there will be civilian casualties. But, they will be worse savages, a cancer, a growing nest of terror for many years to come if we don't. Is everyone glad that we did not fight the 'Japanese', but ended it quickly? Is there a difference? The Japanese citizens likely did no know the emporer was going to bomb Pearl, but then, the afghans are in the same innocent status.
Hiroshima worked. Kabal will work.

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@averagejoe1 said
I am going to agree with Shav, since I have no friends here anyway. Nuke them, and, yes, there will be civilian casualties. But, they will be worse savages, a cancer, a growing nest of terror for many years to come if we don't. Is everyone glad that we did not fight the 'Japanese', but ended it quickly? Is there a difference? The Japanese citizens likely did no know t ...[text shortened]... rl, but then, the afghans are in the same innocent status.
Hiroshima worked. Kabal will work.
To make my sentiments clear: I oppose the using of Nukes on Japan and consider it a war crime.

It did work though.

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Anyone notice bombs going off in Kabul?

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@shavixmir said
So you think strategically nuking them is the way to go?

How many civilians casualties do you reckon with?
What will be the international fall out?

That’s an interesting one. Will the OPEC nations retaliate with oil embargos?

A serious alternative is going into the Panjshir valley with commando forces. Strengthening the resistence there, arming them to the teeth a ...[text shortened]... ely, the Taliban is a rebel force and in no real position to actually effectively control a country.
I'm not a student of ordnance, nor of warfare. Not nuclear bombs....I think just carpet bombs and just good old fashioned let-em-have-it 24/7. Just have our bright military people open up intelligence to the point that we know where they are and kill them. Some innocents will die, but they did in Hiroshima. We did Japan, and us, a favor when we did that. We best do the world a favor and exterminate these middle-age savages.

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