Vietnam mk II

Originally posted by no1marauder
Simple minded.

You understood it just fine....whatever works for you, pseudo-lawyer...

Originally posted by ElleEffSeee
But that wasn't the end of the story in all 3 of those countries now was it?

Uh...no, those were the points of my posts...your gov't is doing the same with your troops....

Originally posted by treetalk
So ... you strap on for the wife, do you? (Or ... male companion ...)

Oh, so you're going to get personal, and involve an innocent member of my family, namely my wife, eh? I'm going to be the "bigger" man than you and not even to respond to your childish behavior. Others will see who the "real" man is...have a nice day...

Originally posted by chancremechanic
Oh, so you're going to get personal, and involve an innocent member of my family, namely my wife, eh? I'm going to be the "bigger" man than you and not even to respond to your childish behavior. Others will see who the "real" man is...have a nice day...

What???????

You live on getting personal!!

That's a beer you owe me - for a ridiculous accusation!

Originally posted by treetalk
What???????

You live on getting personal!!

That's a beer you owe me - for a ridiculous accusation!

I don't get personal with RHPer's family members. I did once, apologized, and promised to never do it again...they are not in these arguments; we are! Maybe you should check yourself before you wreck yourself....

Originally posted by chancremechanic
Uh...no, those were the points of my posts...your gov't is doing the same with your troops....

I severely doubt that your method would produce an 'end to the story' either.

Originally posted by ElleEffSeee
I severely doubt that your method would produce an 'end to the story' either.

Maybe not, but the current method ain't working.....

Originally posted by no1marauder
The US lost the Vietnam war. What I said was that the US wasn't and couldn't have been militarily defeated. But the fact that it couldn't militarily win caused the leadership to eventually realize that the US should cut its losses. Militarily the US could have stayed until doomsday.

Yeah, let's twist again ... like we did last summer ... yeah let's twist again ... like we did last year ........ Oooh and round and round and up and down we goooo again .....


EDIT: You also denied the US was kicked out of Vietnam.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Apparently, October is due to be the US's bloodiest month since Jan 2005.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6065050.stm

He has admitted that comparisons with the Vietnam War might not be too far off the mark.

I think the Vietnam war had a better soundtrack.

Originally posted by shavixmir
I think the Vietnam war had a better soundtrack.

the music i saw recently (from the american angle) was country.

but maybe the iraqis will make movies about it - though i suspect their soundtrack may be very sad.

Originally posted by shavixmir
I think the Vietnam war had a better soundtrack.

These boots are made for walking,
And that's just what they'll do,
One of these days these boots are gonna,
Walk all over you.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
These boots are made for walking,
And that's just what they'll do,
One of these days these boots are gonna,
Walk all over you.

You keep saying
You got something for me .......

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Yeah, let's twist again ... like we did last summer ... yeah let's twist again ... like we did last year ........ Oooh and round and round and up and down we goooo again .....


EDIT: You also denied the US was kicked out of Vietnam.

IvanhoeWorld is a truly strange place to be. The discussion he is referencing is here: http://www.chessatwork.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=51024&page=12

Ivanhoe's preferred explanation for the Kennedy assassination is that the military or the CIA or somebody in he government shot Kennedy because he was going to withdraw from Vietnam. I pointed out that this is utter nonsense by giving him the relevant facts along with pointing out that Nixon did withdraw from Vietnam and nobody shot him. Ivanhoe has got it in his mind that somehow, someway the Viet Cong militarily defeated the US Army, but can't name a single battle lost by the US in the war.

The truth is as I said; the US couldn't be militarily defeated, but it couldn't militarily prevail either. So eventually the government made the proper, if belated, decision that the war wasn't worth the cost and withdrew. I'm sure we'll get a bunch of moronic comments from Ivanhoe, but that remains the truth no matter how many RFLMSO or whatever crap he writes.

Originally posted by no1marauder
[b].... The truth is as I said; the US couldn't be militarily defeated, but it couldn't militarily prevail either. So eventually the government made the proper, if belated, decision that the war wasn't worth the cost and withdrew. ...[b]

interesting.
it makes me wonder if the concept of military defeat/success has any useful meaning.
it certainly makes it seem something NOT worth fighting for.

Originally posted by flexmore
interesting.
it makes me wonder if the concept of military defeat/success has any useful meaning.
it certainly makes it seem something NOT worth fighting for.

It has little meaning when you are an occupying force; you either think that the cost in lives and other things is worth whatever benefit you derive or you get out (or never get in).