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  1. 19 Oct '16 18:14 / 1 edit
    http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/10/19/after-first-posing-nude-madonna-now-offering-sexual-favors-for-voting-for-hillary-n2234692

    That's right, the material girl got up on stage and said that anyone who will vote for Hillary gets a @@job.

    Currently there is only 3 people at her door waiting, who are Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, and Trump.

    Now that the country is officially in the toilet of secular humanism, who will flush?
  2. 19 Oct '16 19:34
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/10/19/after-first-posing-nude-madonna-now-offering-sexual-favors-for-voting-for-hillary-n2234692

    That's right, the material girl got up on stage and said that anyone who will vote for Hillary gets a @@job.

    Currently there is only 3 people at her door waiting, who are Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, and Trump.

    Now that the country is officially in the toilet of secular humanism, who will flush?
    Instead of talking about "@@jobs," let's talk about your beef with secularism. The United States, while not fully secular (no society is), was founded largely on secularist principles. Do you think the government ought to interfere with people's religious matters and beliefs? Where did this beef the alt-right has with secularism come from?
  3. 19 Oct '16 19:53
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/10/19/after-first-posing-nude-madonna-now-offering-sexual-favors-for-voting-for-hillary-n2234692

    That's right, the material girl got up on stage and said that anyone who will vote for Hillary gets a @@job.

    Currently there is only 3 people at her door waiting, who are Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, and Trump.

    Now that the country is officially in the toilet of secular humanism, who will flush?
    I'll be number four in line
    sounds like a good deal
    at least better then what I've been getting
  4. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    19 Oct '16 19:59 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/10/19/after-first-posing-nude-madonna-now-offering-sexual-favors-for-voting-for-hillary-n2234692

    That's right, the material girl got up on stage and said that anyone who will vote for Hillary gets a @@job.

    Currently there is only 3 people at her door waiting, who are Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, and Trump.

    Now that the country is officially in the toilet of secular humanism, who will flush?
    Ah, you mean like what THESE people think of secular humanism?:

    https://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php/3260

    Maybe you should study your subject before dissing it.
  5. 19 Oct '16 22:00
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Instead of talking about "@@jobs," let's talk about your beef with secularism. The United States, while not fully secular (no society is), was founded largely on secularist principles. Do you think the government ought to interfere with people's religious matters and beliefs? Where did this beef the alt-right has with secularism come from?
    Can you imagine this happening 100 years ago?

    Society is free to choose, and as they choose more of secularism, this is what we get.
  6. Standard member vivify
    rain
    19 Oct '16 22:25
    Did you really need to censor "blow job"? Are you the type who says "oh crud!" to avoid saying "crap"?
  7. 20 Oct '16 06:10
    Originally posted by whodey
    Can you imagine this happening 100 years ago?

    Society is free to choose, and as they choose more of secularism, this is what we get.
    Do you think the government ought to interfere with people's religious matters and beliefs?
  8. 20 Oct '16 08:30
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Do you think the government ought to interfere with people's religious matters and beliefs?
    Only if it is his religion. He has often expressed the belief that the Christian version of morality should be taught in schools presumably he believes Christianity in general should be taught.
  9. 20 Oct '16 10:34 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Do you think the government ought to interfere with people's religious matters and beliefs?
    It is up to society to look to God as their moral guide or the state. The more people choose the state the more the state replaces God. It is really one or the other, which is why most atheists are big government socialists.

    For many, Hillary will become their new god......er.....godess.
  10. 20 Oct '16 10:35
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Only if it is his religion. He has often expressed the belief that the Christian version of morality should be taught in schools presumably he believes Christianity in general should be taught.
    Lies. I have never stated that.
  11. 20 Oct '16 10:44
    Originally posted by whodey
    Lies. I have never stated that.
    Definitely not a lie. I genuinely believe you have expressed that view multiple times. I am willing to be corrected. What is your actual view on what should be taught in school with regards to morality?
  12. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    20 Oct '16 11:48 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    It is up to society to look to God as their moral guide or the state. The more people choose the state the more the state replaces God. It is really one or the other, which is why most atheists are big government socialists.

    For many, Hillary will become their new god......er.....godess.
    It is really one or the other

    It really is not and in any case, there is not one religious position and not one attitude to government. The entire argument is nonsense.

    Would you really argue that the US as a slave state in the South, engaged in the genocide of American Indians, often llimited to the laws of the Wild West, economically in thrall to the robber barons, et al was some sort of Christian paradise? Do you know what slave owners did with slaves? Would you prefer the era of segregation, lynching, Prohibion, et al? I really wonder where this golden age of Christianity existed outside your foolish and semi senile fantasy?

    Take away responsible, accountable, democratic government with the rule of law and then show us how people live.
  13. 20 Oct '16 11:49
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Definitely not a lie. I genuinely believe you have expressed that view multiple times. I am willing to be corrected. What is your actual view on what should be taught in school with regards to morality?
    You are the one making the assertion, so show us where I have said it or assume the role of liar.
  14. 20 Oct '16 11:57 / 10 edits
    Originally posted by finnegan
    It is really one or the other

    It really is not and in any case, there is not one religious position and not one attitude to government. The entire argument is nonsense.

    Would you really argue that the US as a slave state in the South, engaged in the genocide of American Indians, often llimited to the laws of the Wild West, economically ...[text shortened]... nder where this golden age of Christianity existed outside your foolish and semi senile fantasy?
    There has been, nor can ever be, a "utopia" as you call it. World utopia is what statists hope for through such ideas as their one world order, not me. The world system is based upon money and power, and as the Bible says, the love of money is the root of all evil. However, America was founded by those of faith who sought refuge from such an oppressive system. But as is always the case, the statists take over and begin the same types of oppression that they had tried to escape. In fact, some of the Puritans began oppressive style governments themselves. The Salem witch trials are but one example. But today, in the mind of Hillary Clinton, the church must embrace abortion and gay marriage or they must be marginalized or destroyed. Seeking money and power is our sin nature. Whoever holds power is subject to it's vices. It is the Lord of the rings. And we see the same vice within the Founding Fathers. They struggled via a bloody revolution to overcome the oppression from the royal crown, only to pass the Alien and Sedition Acts which limited the freedom of their government to speak out against them. They had embraced what they had just got done fighting against.

    I could never advocate a theocracy. We all saw what happened in Europe. The people were left ignorant of what the Bible said. The Bible was only translated in Latin, a language most did not know, and only priests were allowed to interpret it. This led to corruption and the selling of indulgences and Inquisitions, etc., which sparked the Protestant Reformation. It took one of those priests to take the morality of the Bible above the state and demand reform. So as we see, if we leave the interpretation of scripture up to those in power, they will only use it to their own advantage, much like leaving the interpretation of the Constitution up to partisan empty robed shills

    Now as we see with Hillary, she talks of the church needing to change. What has begun now is an effort to infiltrate the church and change around its doctrines to suit the party. This is the only possible outcome of religion mixed with the state, even though the state may not take it over by name.

    As for the GOP, they have nominated a foul mouthed man whore. What ever happened to family values? Now we see church leaders support him without shame. Now these same church leaders are looking towards the political party rather than Biblical doctrine.
  15. 20 Oct '16 12:02 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by vivify
    Did you really need to censor "blow job"? Are you the type who says "oh crud!" to avoid saying "crap"?
    You are from New York, so you would never understand the desire to avoid using profanity. It's just a culture thing.

    In fact, I was watching a Hillary ad that showed Trump using foul language while children were watching on TV. The message was clear, do we want a world leader using profanity? Do we want to set such an example for our children? But then I though, most are probably like you are. They see the commercial and don't get it. So Trump said the "F" word, who cares? In today's moral vacuum, I wonder how effective the commercial was in persuading voters to turn against the orange man whore.