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Europe’s mood of euphoria over Barack Obama masks anxiety about what the new president will demand.

AS THE exhilaration over Barack Obama’s inauguration fades, Europeans have begun to absorb an uncomfortable truth. In his inaugural speech, the United States’ new president did not mention the European Union once. Mr Obama may be at the centre of Europe’s preoccupations. But Europe does not appear to be at the centre of his.

As long as George Bush was in office, Europeans could throw up their hands over the treatment of the Guantánamo Bay prison inmates but feel little pressure to take any of them in; or, indeed, to do more to help in Afghanistan. Under Mr Obama nobody will dare to seem so curmudgeonly.

In the circumstances the last thing any government in Europe will want is to be seen to displease the new American president. But meeting his expectations with actions, rather than fine words and rapturous applause, may yet prove hard.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Europe’s mood of euphoria over Barack Obama masks anxiety about what the new president will demand.
What's interesting is the new mood pervading Washington to be unashamedly American and to reaffirm their former position as world leader without the annoying inconvenience of self doubting.

What's that old Chinese curse about living in interesting times?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Under Mr Obama nobody will dare to seem so curmudgeonly.
wanna bet?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
wanna bet?
obama is the messiah, or is seen as such by europeans (observing the euphoria), who dares question him?

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I don't sense any euphoria here in Europe. The leading sentiment seems to be that he is better than McCain, but the choice between a right wing conservative and an extreme right wing ultraconservative isn't so hard for most people.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
I don't sense any euphoria here in Europe. The leading sentiment seems to be that he is better than McCain, but the choice between a right wing conservative and an extreme right wing ultraconservative isn't so hard for most people.
I did here in britain.

extreme right wing ultraconservative
thats exagerating isn't it?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
obama is the messiah, or is seen as such by europeans (observing the euphoria), who dares question him?
I don't know to which Europe do you refer to.

Perhaps you're in the UK? If so, that explains a lot, since the UK is just an appendix of the US, not a European adlater in itself the least representative.

Obama here (at least in the North) is seen with simpathy, and we still wonder how the hell he could be elected despite the hundreds of thousand of tractor driving, tobacco chewing, KKK rednecks in Nowhere, USA.

But far from a messiah. Europeans are not Americans (continent) nor Africans: the need for a messiah is not that overtly present in the soul of the "lost children".

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Originally posted by generalissimo
obama is the messiah, or is seen as such by europeans (observing the euphoria), who dares question him?
not questioning him is easy as pie. you think that translates into any kind of active support? or even multilateralism?

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Originally posted by Seitse
I don't know to which Europe do you refer to.

Perhaps you're in the UK? If so, that explains a lot, since the UK is just an appendix of the US, not a European adlater in itself the least representative.

Obama here (at least in the North) is seen with simpathy, and we still wonder how the hell he could be elected despite the hundreds of thousand of tract ...[text shortened]... cans: the need for a messiah is not that overtly present in the soul of the "lost children".
dude, wikipedia says there are 5,000-8,000 KKK members, max.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Europe’s mood of euphoria over Barack Obama masks anxiety about what the new president will demand.

AS THE exhilaration over Barack Obama’s inauguration fades, Europeans have begun to absorb an uncomfortable truth. In his inaugural speech, the United States’ new president did not mention the European Union once. Mr Obama may be at the centre of Euro ...[text shortened]... is expectations with actions, rather than fine words and rapturous applause, may yet prove hard.
Why don't you do everyone a favor and quit whining about Obama. President Obama is so busy trying keep the entire American economy from collapsing, (a gift from our beloved George W Bush) that maybe Europe is not his top priority. President Obama and the leaders of Europe seem to have no problen with each other, so why are you trying so hard to create a problem where none yet exists? 😏

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Originally posted by Seitse
I don't know to which Europe do you refer to.

Perhaps you're in the UK? If so, that explains a lot, since the UK is just an appendix of the US, not a European adlater in itself the least representative.

Obama here (at least in the North) is seen with simpathy, and we still wonder how the hell he could be elected despite the hundreds of thousand of tract ...[text shortened]... cans: the need for a messiah is not that overtly present in the soul of the "lost children".
The OP is a copy-paste from the Economist, which is notoriously anti-EU . Nothing new there.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
obama is the messiah, or is seen as such by europeans (observing the euphoria), who dares question him?
You obviously do. Kudos, man.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
dude, wikipedia says there are 5,000-8,000 KKK members, max.
I have not or ever been a member of that organisation.

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Originally posted by Palynka
The OP is a copy-paste from the Economist, which is notoriously anti-EU . Nothing new there.
Shouldn't the original poster mention that or did he just wipe his rear with IP laws?

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Originally posted by Seitse
Shouldn't the original poster mention that or did he just wipe his rear with IP laws?
If the OP is less than 10% of the original article's length he should still be okay, well at least in Australia.