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WAL-MART can die a 1000 deaths

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050209.wwalmart0209/BNStory/Business/

This is a short, interesting article that a friend sent to me today. A similar thing happened with a McDonald's in Montreal.

What are everyone's thought on Multi-gazillion dollar companies refusal to unionize their workers? Should this kind of exploitation be allowed in the Western world or anywhere else for that matter?

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Read 'Not on the Label' by Felicity Lawrence to see things that walmart are doing that are a lot worse than banning unions. Like promoting slavery in Latin America for 1.

Buy Fairtrade.

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Dont like it dont work for them.

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Originally posted by darvlay
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050209.wwalmart0209/BNStory/Business/

This is a short, interesting article that a friend sent to me today. A similar thing happened with a McDonald's in Montreal.

What are everyone's thought on Multi-gazillion dollar companies refusal to unionize their workers? Should this kind of exploitation be allowed in the Western world or anywhere else for that matter?

Finally ,another evil empire hater.New it would be another Canadian.The 1000 deaths is a nice touch.😏

Get your noose!

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Originally posted by Brother Edwin
Dont like it dont work for them.
Don't like it?

Don't work for them.
Don't support them.
Don't buy their wares.
Don't let one ruin your small hometown.
Don't let all of them take over the Earth.

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
Read 'Not on the Label' by Felicity Lawrence to see things that walmart are doing that are a lot worse than banning unions. Like promoting slavery in Latin America for 1.

Buy Fairtrade.

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Thanks for the tip, D. I will look into that!

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Originally posted by darvlay
Thanks for the tip, D. I will look into that!
If that last tip got your fancy, then this one will make you shudder and say 'OOO'.

The Culture of Make Believe, by Derrick Jensen. It chronicles how corporations ran the world as far back as the end of the 19th century. Absolutely amazing read, and fantastically researched. Best book I've ever read, bar none.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931498571/qid=1108076077/sr=8-3/ref=pd_csp_3/002-0132423-3641650?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

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Originally posted by darvlay
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050209.wwalmart0209/BNStory/Business/

This is a short, interesting article that a friend sent to me today. A similar thing happened with a McDonald's in Montreal.

What are everyone's thought on Multi-gazillion dollar companies refusal to unionize their workers? Should this kind of exploitation be allowed in the Western world or anywhere else for that matter?
A union is a way for workers to organize in order to have a stronger position when it comes to negotiation. It simply counterbalances the already organized employer company.

A company should have the right to do what Wal-Mart did, I think. I am not sure though. Wal-Mart claims that the union's demands were unreasonable and basically refused to deal with the union. This is no different than a union going on strike I think.

However if the union can take Wal-Mart to court and legally prove that there is discrimination based on union membership, Wal-Mart should be punished. It should be illegal to discriminate in this way.

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I have no problem with employees unionizing.

I have no problem with employers shutting down the business if their accounting calculations show them that a unionized business would not be profitable.

If some competing chain wants to buy the property and operate with unionized employees, more power to them. But if they soon go out of business from chronic red ink, I would say they got what they deserved.

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I have no problem with wal-mart. Unlike most people, they sent me a check for $735,000.00 two years ago to plumb two of their stores. I shop there. I am union.

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Originally posted by Paul Dirac
I have no problem with employers shutting down the business if their accounting calculations show them that a unionized business would not be profitable.
When you say 'would not be profitable', do you mean the company would lose money, or the companies profits would go down from $8.9 billion to $8.7 billion?

Here's something interesting I found while looking for walmart's yearly profits...
'A recent University of California, Berkeley study found that the fast growing retailer takes more from communities than it gives.

"Because of the low wages and because people do not have health insurance through their employer, people rely on public support to make ends meet," says the school's Ken Jacobs.

Estimates are the result is a tab to California taxpayers of $82-million a year for health care, food stamps, and other social services. '

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
When you say 'would not be profitable', do you mean the company would lose money, or the companies profits would go down from $8.9 billion to $8.7 billion?

Here's something interesting I found while looking for walmart's yearly profits...
'A recent University of California, Berkeley study found that the fast growing retailer takes more from communi ...[text shortened]... taxpayers of $82-million a year for health care, food stamps, and other social services. '

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'Profit' is defined in economics as whether or not you are making as much as you can get elsewhere. If you have $1000, and you can invest it and make $1100, then it's not profitable to invest it somewhere else and make $1050.

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Originally posted by darvlay
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050209.wwalmart0209/BNStory/Business/

This is a short, interesting article that a friend sent to me today. A similar thing happened with a McDonald's in Montreal.

What are everyone's thought on Multi-gazillion dollar companies refusal to unionize their workers? Should this kind of exploitation be allowed in the Western world or anywhere else for that matter?
As long as the BMW to TTC ratio stays as it is, nothing will be done.