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We need to understand the Somalian effect

We need to understand the Somalian effect

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Poor places around the world could be rich if they become like us. Yes, we have natural raw materials, but so does Africa. Even the NYT admits Somalia is a totally corrupt country. They bring their society to the society of Minnesota. (MN)

MN has a Scandinavian-Model Welfare System. A 'robust safety net program bankrolled by high taxes".....It works in small homogenous societies like Scandinavian countries. But that cannot work with the Somalee in MN, because they have a different CULTURE!
Stealing is widespread, corruption, dishonesty. Honest people are deemed suckers. They will see the somalee steal groceries while they are paying for their groceries. So, hell, We Will Steal Groceries Too! So will go the society,,,,,in MN!?
Stealing is REALLY a bad thing. Do the libs here find fault with...that culture?

We are a high-trust society, others are low trust. The homogenous societies,..Nordic countries.., that you try to compare us to are TINY> Denmark is the size of Missiouri, and homogenous. It is easier to have a welfare state in a country the size of Missouri. It is not possible in a giant country like ours , and it is not possible in a country like Somalia that is corrupt


@AverageJoe1 said
Poor places around the world could be rich if they become like us.
Part of us being rich is that we exploit poor countries.

In fact lifestyle in the "Wetsren world" is not sustainable, so not everybody can live that lifestyle.


@Ponderable said
Part of us being rich is that we exploit poor countries.

In fact lifestyle in the "Wetsren world" is not sustainable, so not everybody can live that lifestyle.
This makes no sense.

If I am getting this right, you are saying that lifestyle in the western world is not sustainable. That is what you just wrote. The richest country in the world seems to be getting along just fine. I don’t know anyone that is not having a sustainable life in our country. There are about 50 million of us who need government help, and I think our government should take care of them. But then there are some who choose to be poor, but that would be for another thread, would it not?

You then say no one can ‘ live that lifestyle’ What does that mean?


@Ponderable said
Part of us being rich is that we exploit poor countries.

In fact lifestyle in the "Wetsren world" is not sustainable, so not everybody can live that lifestyle.
We give billions of dollars a year to poor countries and all manner of other aid, how is the US exploiting them?


@Cliff-Mashburn said
We give billions of dollars a year to poor countries and all manner of other aid, how is the US exploiting them?
Recent American aid budget cuts have significantly impacted global health and humanitarian assistance, with the administration freezing and drastically reducing funding for programs run by agencies like USAID. These cuts have been justified by the administration as a way to refocus foreign policy on "America First" priorities, but critics and non-governmental organizations report that they have led to the suspension of essential services, increased health risks, and potentially millions of lives at risk, especially among vulnerable populations.

(Our AI friend).


@Ponderable said
Part of us being rich is that we exploit poor countries.

In fact lifestyle in the "Wetsren world" is not sustainable, so not everybody can live that lifestyle.
Be common sense. Do we take advantage? How? Economically? Military? Resources? Name a country that wants us to have nothing to do with them. You will not find it. We are a global financial powerhouse, our military is welcome all over the world, Many of our actions create benefits to many other countries. You have some of our products in your house. Sometimes our shaping of global systems is in our favor, it is just a natural thing that has gone on for 10,000 years. We are strong, we are the biggest. WHAT would you have us do? We are negotiators, we are not coercive. What iin the hell are you taling about?: Do you want our leaders to bnow to other leaders like Obama did to the Saudi Prince when he visited there? Not on your life. Trump expects the bow to come from the prince. All the countries need us.
Get real. you libs just throw anything out there in your curious anger.
what do you mean by exploit??


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Recent American aid budget cuts have significantly impacted global health and humanitarian assistance, with the administration freezing and drastically reducing funding for programs run by agencies like USAID. These cuts have been justified by the administration as a way to refocus foreign policy on "America First" priorities, but critics and non-governmental organiza ...[text shortened]... potentially millions of lives at risk, especially among vulnerable populations.

(Our AI friend).
"Recent"........After trillions in aid over the years......and the US is rich because of it?


@Ponderable said
Part of us being rich is that we exploit poor countries.

In fact lifestyle in the "Wetsren world" is not sustainable, so not everybody can live that lifestyle.
is this on point? Do you think that the AdHan (Call to Prayer) that they wail from their newly constructed minarets will fit in comfortably witih your quiet day in the park.?
What if a citizen like me, or my lawyer AvBill, files a complaint to the town that the constant wailing is a nuisance? Illegal. AvBill asks the town to prohibit the nuisance call to prayer.
Will you tell us your opinion on this ? We need to get to the bottom of of this, we have to nip it in the bud!!!! They are building another minaret right next to my catholic church as we speak.


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Recent American aid budget cuts have significantly impacted global health and humanitarian assistance, with the administration freezing and drastically reducing funding for programs run by agencies like USAID. These cuts have been justified by the administration as a way to refocus foreign policy on "America First" priorities, but critics and non-governmental organiza ...[text shortened]... potentially millions of lives at risk, especially among vulnerable populations.

(Our AI friend).
Also Isis is taking advantage of this aid cut.


@AverageJoe1 said
is this on point? Do you think that the AdHan (Call to Prayer) that they wail from their newly constructed minarets will fit in comfortably witih your quiet day in the park.?
What if a citizen like me, or my lawyer AvBill, files a complaint to the town that the constant wailing is a nuisance? Illegal. AvBill asks the town to prohibit the nuisance call to prayer ...[text shortened]... p it in the bud!!!! They are building another minaret right next to my catholic church as we speak.
In my opinion....(for what it's worth) you're right on this point. Wailing from the minarets, which is mostly pre - recorded and always amplified these days anyway, belongs in the desert, a few hundred years ago. Back then it was handy, letting people know it was time to pray, with the invention of the time - piece and now the mobile telephone, everyone knows what the time is. It may have a certain romantic charm in Istanbul, but in downtown New York it has no place.


@Indonesia-Phil said
In my opinion....(for what it's worth) you're right on this point. Wailing from the minarets, which is mostly pre - recorded and always amplified these days anyway, belongs in the desert, a few hundred years ago. Back then it was handy, letting people know it was time to pray, with the invention of the time - piece and now the mobile telephone, everyone knows what the time is. It may have a certain romantic charm in Istanbul, but in downtown New York it has no place.
Thankypu. I hope we can hear from other posters on this issue.


The New York Times ran an article about Somali society and said that stealing is part of their thinking

Isn't that racist...?

I guess not so when a lib does it. hmmmm


@Ponderable said
Part of us being rich is that we exploit poor countries.

In fact lifestyle in the "Wetsren world" is not sustainable, so not everybody can live that lifestyle.
Wrong on both counts. Please explain how western countries have exploited poor countries. Western lifestyle is in fact possible in poor countries, if only they were able to work hard, stop the widespread corruption and make good decisions.


@Indonesia-Phil said
In my opinion....(for what it's worth) you're right on this point. Wailing from the minarets, which is mostly pre - recorded and always amplified these days anyway, belongs in the desert, a few hundred years ago. Back then it was handy, letting people know it was time to pray, with the invention of the time - piece and now the mobile telephone, everyone knows what the time is. It may have a certain romantic charm in Istanbul, but in downtown New York it has no place.
I understand that they are also praying on the street and blocking traffic. Why are people tolerating these insane Muslims.


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Recent American aid budget cuts have significantly impacted global health and humanitarian assistance, with the administration freezing and drastically reducing funding for programs run by agencies like USAID. These cuts have been justified by the administration as a way to refocus foreign policy on "America First" priorities, but critics and non-governmental organiza ...[text shortened]... potentially millions of lives at risk, especially among vulnerable populations.

(Our AI friend).
Your AI friend left out some important facts ..
- these same countries who cry for help, have crooks as their leaders who steal the funds, who sell the medicines [meant to be free], to pharmacies.
- if you have financial problems, then one of the first things normal people do is to have less children, educate and train yourself, find work, and make yourself productive. Instead of doing this some countries have resorted to begging, and begging from the same country they hate.