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  1. 22 Aug '11 10:37
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1thcO_olHas
  2. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    22 Aug '11 16:08 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1thcO_olHas
    Is that why pre-election telephone polls by a variety of independent firms are 99% accurate in predicting election results?
  3. 22 Aug '11 17:07
    Umm. Why isn't this big news?

    Just curious.
  4. 22 Aug '11 17:22
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    Umm. Why isn't this big news?

    Just curious.
    I was wondering the same thing. The footage obviously isn't a fake.
  5. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    22 Aug '11 17:32
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    Umm. Why isn't this big news?

    Just curious.
    That pre-election polling is so accurate belies the possibility of large scale consistent election fraud.
  6. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    22 Aug '11 17:33
    Originally posted by sh76
    That pre-election polling is so accurate belies the possibility of large scale consistent election fraud.
    Unless the pre-election polling is also tainted.
  7. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    22 Aug '11 17:40
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Unless the pre-election polling is also tainted.
    Right. So PPP, Zogby, Gallup, RR, etc. etc. etc., all completely private organizations, are all tainted by this conspiracy?
  8. 22 Aug '11 17:44
    The full documentary, parts 1 through a bunch.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhBtfiRKaVY&feature=related
  9. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    22 Aug '11 17:58
    Originally posted by sh76
    Right. So PPP, Zogby, Gallup, RR, etc. etc. etc., all completely private organizations, are all tainted by this conspiracy?
    Hey if Fox zombies can rant about the liberal media I can have a conspiracy about them too. It's only fair.
  10. 22 Aug '11 18:16
    Originally posted by sh76
    That pre-election polling is so accurate belies the possibility of large scale consistent election fraud.
    It doesn't matter. If someone in office really asked this guy to design software to flip an election, it should be national news, even if it was never implemented.
  11. 22 Aug '11 23:47
    Originally posted by sh76
    Is that why pre-election telephone polls by a variety of independent firms are 99% accurate in predicting election results?
    Two brothers named Kennedy wrote a book two decades ago called "Vote Scam". Their recommendation way back then was paper ballots, and no voting machine being hooked up to a phone line or any network connection.

    After 2000 Florida, massive amounts of money were spent replacing voting machines, but no attention was given to the above recommendations. Both parties like the prospect of cheating.
  12. 22 Aug '11 23:49
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    Umm. Why isn't this big news?

    Just curious.
    It's old news, and no party wants to have honest elections.
  13. 23 Aug '11 00:07
    Originally posted by normbenign
    It's old news, and no party wants to have honest elections.
    But that doesn't account for the media's apathy - then and now.
  14. 23 Aug '11 00:19
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    But that doesn't account for the media's apathy - then and now.
    Sure it does. Give it enough buzz and maybe it gets traction. Most Americans assume politicians to be crooks, except their party. Puleeze! The media is generally in the bag for one side or the other. They enjoy the power they hold to manipulate elections as well.
  15. 23 Aug '11 00:31
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Sure it does. Give it enough buzz and maybe it gets traction. Most Americans assume politicians to be crooks, except their party. Puleeze! The media is generally in the bag for one side or the other. They enjoy the power they hold to manipulate elections as well.
    Most Americans do not assume that politicians are commissioning software to flip elections. They may yawn at voter suppression on the part of Republicans, or pushes for loose ID confirmation rules on the part of Democrats. But this, if there is anything to the testimony, is just a couple of steps below a military coup.