All of us. The biased right-wing and left-wing media playing us for fools. For clicks. For eyeballs. They are telling you what you want to hear so you keep your butt in the chair.
There are nuggets of truth in most falsehoods. Mott pointed out in one thread that the fact that Jared Kushner took $2 billion from a Saudi prince does not necessarily mean it was corrupt. That's a fair point.
But the opposite is happening too. When you see a story linking to a flyer that was distributed in schools about gender fluidity, it isn't being distributed by a concerned parent. They provide one quote from an anonymous "concerned grandma" who clearly is not a student or a teacher or a superintendent. The information is being distributed by a bot and an enormous media conglomerate and a political machine that feeds off donors and votes. You are the product and they are using you!
Important take home points:
1) don't trust social media. They're using you for ad revenue.
2) engage with real people. Was there anyone real who was affected by this or is it just a storyline?
3) online robots are powerful amplifiers of information and they have the ability to manipulate public perception of specific topics.
4) check your own perceptions. When's the last time you admitted you were wrong about something? There's a recent study that took some FoxNews watchers and asked them to switch to CNN and it completely changed their viewpoint. Cable news and social media filter content to only show you what you like. Maybe try listening to some alternate perspectives every once in awhile.
Otherwise it's bad news Bears.
https://theconversation.com/remember-youre-being-manipulated-on-social-media-4-essential-reads-106742
@wildgrass
Point taken. Free forums are not free; the money has to come from somewhere. Either paid subscriptions or advertisements. It’s frightening to think how many people get their news from FaceBook. One poster at RHP was citing Jimmy Dore, a political satirist, as his news source. We have created a society so enamored of the idea that freedom of speech means no limits, that we have voluntarily reached the state the KGB tried and failed to plunge us into, awash in so much disinformation that the truth is no longer discernible.
… and then there’s Trump: truth becomes completely subordinate to personal narrative.
People, wake up and smell the coffee! Don’t fall for trash metalbrain posts.
https://theconversation.com/how-the-russian-government-used-disinformation-and-cyber-warfare-in-2016-election-an-ethical-hacker-explains-99989
@wildgrass saidPart of the problem is that people are seeking confirmation bias. Everybody does it to some extent, but some people take it to the extreme so they don't hear the other side of the story at all by engaging in group think to maintain ignorance of opposing points of view.
All of us. The biased right-wing and left-wing media playing us for fools. For clicks. For eyeballs. They are telling you what you want to hear so you keep your butt in the chair.
There are nuggets of truth in most falsehoods. Mott pointed out in one thread that the fact that Jared Kushner took $2 billion from a Saudi prince does not necessarily mean it was corrupt. That ...[text shortened]... ttps://theconversation.com/remember-youre-being-manipulated-on-social-media-4-essential-reads-106742
Then when someone uninvited comes along and tells them the truth it sounds absurd. Perceived absurdities are often rejected immediately because of incredulity alone, so the truth has little chance.
@wildgrass saidTend to agree with you. But your no.2 point 'engage with real people.'
All of us. The biased right-wing and left-wing media playing us for fools. For clicks. For eyeballs. They are telling you what you want to hear so you keep your butt in the chair.
There are nuggets of truth in most falsehoods. Mott pointed out in one thread that the fact that Jared Kushner took $2 billion from a Saudi prince does not necessarily mean it was corrupt. That ...[text shortened]... ttps://theconversation.com/remember-youre-being-manipulated-on-social-media-4-essential-reads-106742
Where do we find such creatures ?
@moonbus saidWhat he said went completely over your head. It is evident because you resorted to partisan bias which is what he warned people about. What did he say about the right AND the left wing? He didn't say ONLY the right wing is being manipulated.
@wildgrass
Point taken. Free forums are not free; the money has to come from somewhere. Either paid subscriptions or advertisements. It’s frightening to think how many people get their news from FaceBook. One poster at RHP was citing Jimmy Dore, a political satirist, as his news source. We have created a society so enamored of the idea that freedom of speech means no lim ...[text shortened]... iscernible.
… and then there’s Trump: truth becomes completely subordinate to personal narrative.
You continue to be manipulated. Resistance is futile until you both stop your partisan idiocy, not just the right. Or you could come to your senses and realize democrats are not really left wingers and become a socialist. Both major political parties are too far to the right.
@the-gravedigger saidSwinger clubs. Go for it!
Tend to agree with you. But your no.2 point 'engage with real people.'
Where do we find such creatures ?
@wildgrass said"engage with real people"
All of us. The biased right-wing and left-wing media playing us for fools. For clicks. For eyeballs. They are telling you what you want to hear so you keep your butt in the chair.
There are nuggets of truth in most falsehoods. Mott pointed out in one thread that the fact that Jared Kushner took $2 billion from a Saudi prince does not necessarily mean it was corrupt. That ...[text shortened]... ttps://theconversation.com/remember-youre-being-manipulated-on-social-media-4-essential-reads-106742
So lockdowns encourage manipulation because they discourage that, right?
@moonbus saidShould we not fall for Sojhouse posts as well? Who else, we should all be on the same page,..... whose posts are not trustworthy?
@wildgrass
Point taken. Free forums are not free; the money has to come from somewhere. Either paid subscriptions or advertisements. It’s frightening to think how many people get their news from FaceBook. One poster at RHP was citing Jimmy Dore, a political satirist, as his news source. We have created a society so enamored of the idea that freedom of speech means no lim ...[text shortened]... n-government-used-disinformation-and-cyber-warfare-in-2016-election-an-ethical-hacker-explains-99989
@averagejoe1 saidThe solution is simple and has been tried and tested for over 200 years: Hold virtual media to the same standard as print media. Hold virtual platform admins the same as print media editors liable to fines and imprisonment if they publish lies, slander, defamation, incitement to violence, hate speech, or shouting “fire!” in a crowded theater when there is no fire. It makes editors of print media careful to peer-review and fact-check before publishing, and Zuck and others could no longer dodge responsibility either. Fixed.
Should we not fall for Sojhouse posts as well? Who else, we should all be on the same page,..... whose posts are not trustworthy?
@metal-brain saidBut who floods this forum with conspiracy-theory trash?
What he said went completely over your head. It is evident because you resorted to partisan bias which is what he warned people about. What did he say about the right AND the left wing? He didn't say ONLY the right wing is being manipulated.
You continue to be manipulated. Resistance is futile until you both stop your partisan idiocy, not just the right. Or you could ...[text shortened]... t really left wingers and become a socialist. Both major political parties are too far to the right.
@moonbus saidIt's actually worse than that.
The solution is simple and has been tried and tested for over 200 years: Hold virtual media to the same standard as print media. Hold virtual platform admins the same as print media editors liable to fines and imprisonment if they publish lies, slander, defamation, incitement to violence, hate speech, or shouting “fire!” in a crowded theater when there is no fire. It makes ed ...[text shortened]... ct-check before publishing, and Zuck and others could no longer dodge responsibility either. Fixed.
Some will try to discourage you from shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater that IS on fire.
@moonbus saidCan we trust ourselves, or more importantly, our future selves to have that sort of control and is what’s said the real problem, I wonder if it’s the volume.
The solution is simple and has been tried and tested for over 200 years: Hold virtual media to the same standard as print media. Hold virtual platform admins the same as print media editors liable to fines and imprisonment if they publish lies, slander, defamation, incitement to violence, hate speech, or shouting “fire!” in a crowded theater when there is no fire. It makes ed ...[text shortened]... ct-check before publishing, and Zuck and others could no longer dodge responsibility either. Fixed.
Newspapers and terrestrial tv news outlets have always lied slandered and defamed but you spent much less time reading your paper and watching the news. I just worry that objective truth might not be an actual thing, I like the idea of labelling something erroneous by the standard of the majority of sane people, if an individual cannot instinctively grasp the reasonable subjective truth we should just learn to live with that, if it’s so prevalent that it becomes a political issue then we might have to revisit the idea of us sane people being the majority in any meaningful way.
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@wildgrass saidWell yeah.....
All of us. The biased right-wing and left-wing media playing us for fools. For clicks. For eyeballs. They are telling you what you want to hear so you keep your butt in the chair.
There are nuggets of truth in most falsehoods. Mott pointed out in one thread that the fact that Jared Kushner took $2 billion from a Saudi prince does not necessarily mean it was corrupt. That ...[text shortened]... ttps://theconversation.com/remember-youre-being-manipulated-on-social-media-4-essential-reads-106742
And avoid those bogus news sites.
What thinking person would rely on
'Social Media,' for news.
The best, least biased, broadcast news, in my opinion is,
NPR, radio and PBS News Hour.