@vivify saidScientists or climate scientists?
So he cherry picked from a lot of references. He's still been debunked by actual scientists.
There is a difference.
Not all scientists are climate scientists and if they are not they know nothing about climate. You may as well poll all people regardless of expertise. Of course, most people have no idea what they are talking about. They just repeat crap they hear on TV like a parrot. Kind of like you.
NASA mislead you big time. It is time for you to grow up and acknowledge that.
@metal-brain saidFirst they faked the moon landing now they're faking climate change. Got us again.
NASA mislead you big time. It is time for you to grow up and acknowledge that.
@vivify saidI can deny it because the IPCC denies your false claim GW makes forest fires worse.
Again: year after year records are being broken for heat waves, tornados, wildfires and flooding, with continually rising death tolls. That is clear evidence you can't deny. We are actively experiencing the very climate situations scientists have been warning about.
https://www.climatedepot.com/2023/06/09/even-the-un-ipcc-admits-climate-change-doesnt-increase-forest-fires/
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STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION!
@metal-brain saidIf they really said this then why not post a link from the IPCC saying this?
I can deny it because the IPCC denies your false claim GW makes forest fires worse.
https://www.climatedepot.com/2023/06/09/even-the-un-ipcc-admits-climate-change-doesnt-increase-forest-fires/
https://www.climatedepot.com/2023/06/09/[WORD TOO LONG]/
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION!
In the past you've been called out for using sources that misrepresent what authorities say. Could it be you're doing that yet again here?
@vivify saidFrom the link below:
If they really said this then why not post a link from the IPCC saying this?
In the past you've been called out for using sources that misrepresent what authorities say. Could it be you're doing that yet again here?
"After removing non-meteorological factors, the annual frequency of U.S. tornadoes through the most reliable portions of the historical record has remained relatively constant."
https://www.weather.gov/lmk/niu_tornado_frequency_study
"If they really said this then why not post a link from the IPCC saying this?"
https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-783
You made the claim forest fires increased because of GW. The burden of proof should actually be on you, but if you are really confident you can prove it I am willing to make you a bet on it. Are you game?
@vivify said"And human death tolls keep rising."
You just said it was "misinformation" that the world's scientists agree humanity is in peril. You were proven wrong. Why don't you acknowledge your falsehood?
As for what if "doesn't happen", it's already happening. Year after year records are being broken for historic flooding, tornados heatwaves and wildfires. And human death tolls keep rising.
From what? What is your source of information?
@vivify saidAgain, fossil fuels do nothing for the climate but help humanity.
The answer is simple: move away from dependence on fossil fuels and well as enact laws requiring lower emissions as we do so.
The problem is that this directly threatens the profits of the fossil fuel industry, who use their power and influence with politicians to stop this. Right-wingers continually side with the fossil fuel industry because they are paid by them. Ever wonder why it's only right-wingers who oppose climate change initiatives? That's why.
And 100% agree with the profit thing but there are billions being made and billions being moved because of "green". Rather cuts both ways, such is the nature of man.
The "right wingers" could easily jump on the climate bandwagon and make a fortune, I wonder why not. watch that 7 min clip I put up.
The right wingers "might" be seen as apposing "climate change initiatives" but they are near always human focused and whats best for humanity, like innovative energy sources. I have met no-one that does not agree with moving away from fossil fuels, WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT. Not now, we are NOT ready. Tell the kids to go back to school and figure out better alternatives. That is the rights position, mine anyways.
Both sides have sub groups that contradict the norm, i.e, are extreme.
@jimmac saidWhat climate change initiatives can you name that have been pushed by right-wingers? Think about why you can't name any.
The right wingers "might" be seen as apposing "climate change initiatives" but they are near always human focused and whats best for humanity, like innovative energy sources.
I have met no-one that does not agree with moving away from fossil fuels, WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT. Not now, we are NOT ready.
What exactly would indicate when we're "ready" to move away from fossil fuels? And why aren't we "ready" to start moving away now?
@metal-brain saidAs I thought: you don't have link from the actual IPCC.
From the link below:
"After removing non-meteorological factors, the annual frequency of U.S. tornadoes through the most reliable portions of the historical record has remained relatively constant."
https://www.weather.gov/lmk/niu_tornado_frequency_study
@vivify
The UN Climate Panel found in its latest report that hurricanes (aka tropical cyclones) haven’t increased: “Current datasets indicate no significant observed trends in global tropical cyclone frequency over the past century.”
https://nypost.com/2018/09/19/no-global-warming-isnt-causing-worse-hurricanes/
@metal-brain saidhttps://www.noaa.gov/noaa-wildfire/wildfire-climate-connection
You made the claim forest fires increased because of GW. The burden of proof should actually be on you, but if you are really confident you can prove it I am willing to make you a bet on it. Are you game?
Climate change, including increased heat, extended drought, and a thirsty atmosphere, has been a key driver in increasing the risk and extent of wildfires in the western United States during the last two decades.
Like I said: year after year, climate disasters are breaking records:
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/07/1180840781/record-breaking-wildfires-in-canada-are-impacting-air-quality-in-the-u-s
Record-breaking wildfires in Canada are impacting air quality in the U.S.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/17/us/california-wildfires-saturday/index.html
California’s record-breaking wildfires consume nearly 1 million acres in a month
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/08/18/forest-fires-have-burned-a-record-700000-hectares-in-the-eu-this-year
Forest fires have burned a record 700,000 hectares in the EU this year
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/24/texas-heatwave-high-temperatures-power
Record-breaking Texas heatwave enters third week as thousands lose power
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/19/world/europe/europe-uk-heat-record-wildfires.html
Europe’s Heat Wave Shatters British Records and Drives Wildfires
https://www.noaa.gov/media-release/record-breaking-atlantic-hurricane-season-draws-to-end
Record-breaking Atlantic hurricane season draws to an end
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2022/10/19/record-flooding-40-billion-of-damage-in-pakistan-as-monsoons-devastate-south-asia/
Record Flooding: $40 Billion Of Damage In Pakistan As Monsoons Devastate South Asia
https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/flood-recovery.htm
In June, 2022, unprecedented amounts of rainfall caused substantial flooding, rockslides, and mudslides within Yellowstone National Park. Historic water levels caused severe damage to roads, water and wastewater systems, power lines, and other critical park infrastructure.