24 Dec 21
This could have helped a lot of people. Who stand in line at this moment, but will remember Biden when they stand in line to vote!!!! My granny said that! But, it's not funny.
You folks turn quite the blind eye. Do you think Trump might have jumped on the problem a little sooner, maybe even calling out the N'l Guard to run a program of testing?? All while he would be fighting off you jackals??
24 Dec 21
@AverageJoe1
The FACT remains if your goddam king Trump had gotten out of his permanent incompetence and started fighting covid in February like he should have, we would have half the deaths in the US now.
But what did your god king do? Ingest bleach, stick a UV up your ass.
It will be all over by Memorial day.
Yeah, real leadership, like the blind leading the blind.
He is not a leader, he is a THUG who wants to be King Trump.
THAT is a fact JACK.
24 Dec 21
@averagejoe1 saidFree stuff ??
The WH rejected Free Covid Testing in October
Accidental comedy at it's finest !! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@averagejoe1 saidI just have to add to my previous post, after nearly spilling my cofefe, I mean coffee. 😆
This could have helped a lot of people. Who stand in line at this moment, but will remember Biden when they stand in line to vote!!!! My granny said that! But, it's not funny.
You folks turn quite the blind eye. Do you think Trump might have jumped on the problem a little sooner, maybe even calling out the N'l Guard to run a program of testing?? All while he would be fighting off you jackals??
The notion that Trump might have done a better job against COVID might start a push to have the Darwin Awards add a Comedy category.
Sorry. I just had to put that out there. 😆😆😆😆
24 Dec 21
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@averagejoe1 saidWhy are we ramping up testing? It makes no sense.
This could have helped a lot of people. Who stand in line at this moment, but will remember Biden when they stand in line to vote!!!! My granny said that! But, it's not funny.
You folks turn quite the blind eye. Do you think Trump might have jumped on the problem a little sooner, maybe even calling out the N'l Guard to run a program of testing?? All while he would be fighting off you jackals??
I keep saying this, but folks:
WE'RE ALL GETTING EXPOSED TO COVID sooner or later
Here's a radical idea:
- Vaccinate if you want to protect yourself against serious effects of COVID.
- If you're sick, stay the F home. Whether you have COVID or flu or a cold or RSV or whatever, don't expose other people to it if you can help it.
- If you get sick, get treatment (by Zoom or by going to the doctor is up to your preference)
- If you don't want COVID or any other illness, you might want to stay home as much as possible for the next 6-8 weeks. If you do go to indoor crowded places, wear a properly fitting KN-95 (or equivalent).
- If you're healthy and not overly concerned, then live your life (unless you're prepared to panic every December forever).
We don't need to test all these asymptomatics. Testing and tracing is useless, especially against Omicron. It spreads too fast.
Personal anecdote: I got an exposure notification from NYS on my phone on Dec. 20. It said it detected that I'd been exposed on Dec. 15. Because I was going to see my father the next day, I ran out and got a rapid test at an urgent care clinic. The place was mobbed. How I didn't catch anything while I was waiting in a room full of sick people I have no idea (then again I might have asymptomatic Omicron right now, for all I know). The provider asked me why I was getting tested and I told him; he chuckled at my naivete and, as I was leaving, I overheard him telling the other people working at the clinic about the guy with no symptoms getting tested just because he got an exposure notification. In a room full of people with flu, stomach bugs, COVID, RSV and other winter ailments, I must have looked silly indeed.
That's the real world. The testing and tracing nonsense you still hear from blue-checkmarks on Twitter is fantasy.
24 Dec 21
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@sh76 saidAgreed to a point.
Why are we ramping up testing? It makes no sense.
I keep saying this, but folks:
WE'RE ALL GETTING EXPOSED TO COVID sooner or later
Here's a radical idea:
- Vaccinate if you want to protect yourself against serious effects of COVID.
- If you're sick, stay the F home. Whether you have COVID or flu or a cold or RSV or whatever, don't expose other people to it if you ca ...[text shortened]... l world. The testing and tracing nonsense you still hear from blue-checkmarks on Twitter is fantasy.
Yes, Omicron will spread. And it will be considerably less lethal than Delta.
And it has already been suggested that the metrics should shift away from case counts to hospitalizations and deaths.
But case counts do provide information on the rate of spread and allow health care authorities to get in front of the problem.
But I think even trying to contain it just a little buys governments time to prevent the overwhelming of health care systems.
People are thinking of the measures in terms of reducing the spread from 100% to 0%, thinking in absolute terms.
But even a small reduction from 100% to 90% could mean hundreds of millions of dollars.
Yes, I may be pulling the numbers out of thin air. But some may already have those numbers, they are out there.
I am constantly reading in the media that health care workers are stretched to the limit now. Everywhere, not just the US.
The wave is already past its' peak in S Africa, so this could be behind us here before the spring.
Unless another variant pops up.
24 Dec 21
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@mghrn55 saidHopsitalizations always surge in December; it's the height of flu season.
Agreed to a point.
Yes, Omicron will spread. And it will be considerably less lethal than Delta.
And it has already been suggested that the metrics should shift away from case counts to hospitalizations and deaths.
But case counts do provide information on the rate of spread and allow health care authorities to get in front of the problem.
But I think even trying to conta ...[text shortened]... eak in S Africa, so this could be behind us here before the spring.
Unless another variant pops up.
Hospitals being stretched thin this time of year is common.
2018: https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/
2014: https://www.daytondailynews.com/lifestyles/health/local-hospitals-ask-flu-patients-stay-away/I5jeXotxyNmHmZDIxgGHgI/
2015: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/flu-closes-schools-flusters-hospitals-nationwide/story?id=28245734
etc.
There are anecdotal stories about individual hospitals being overwhelmed, but the hospital systems in general seem to be coping fine.
https://nypost.com/2021/12/22/new-york-records-28000-new-covid-cases-statewide/ ("hospitalization rates are thankfully remaining somewhat stable, Gov. Kathy Hochul said at a press conference" )
I'll look at any evidence that says otherwise, but I see no evidence so far that US hospitals are being stressed more so than you would expect this time of year.
Granted, some of that is because we've built better capacity and better treatment options and vaccines, but those things are done. We've actually built a better vaccine, treatment and hospital infrastructure and are well positioned to handle future flu/COVID seasons as far as I can tell.
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24 Dec 21
@averagejoe1 saidThere you go again.
This could have helped a lot of people. Who stand in line at this moment, but will remember Biden when they stand in line to vote!!!! My granny said that! But, it's not funny.
You folks turn quite the blind eye. Do you think Trump might have jumped on the problem a little sooner, maybe even calling out the N'l Guard to run a program of testing?? All while he would be fighting off you jackals??
WRONG AS USUAL
ANY EVIDENCE?
NO, I don't think he would have.
Why must you people CONSTANTLY LIE?
Oh, I forgot, you're just imitating Trump.
Fact is; he delayed the testing
and vaccine delivery
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-sought-undermine-covid-19-142900025.html
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/mar/20/how-donald-trump-responded-coronavirus-pandemic/
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/12/the-sad-new-details-of-how-trump-sabotaged-the-countrys-response-to-covid.html
24 Dec 21
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@sh76 saidActually hospitalizations for COVID19 are up 39% since November 1st, Mr. What Me Worry. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/charts-covid-hospitalizations-are-rising-across-country-even-high-vaccination-n1286322
Hopsitalizations always surge in December; it's the height of flu season.
Hospitals being stretched thin this time of year is common.
2018: https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/
2014: https://www.daytondailynews.com/lifestyles/health/local-hospitals-ask-flu-patients-stay-away/I5jeXotxyNmHmZDIxgGHgI/
2015: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/flu-c ...[text shortened]... ital infrastructure and are well positioned to handle future flu/COVID seasons as far as I can tell.
"Eight states set hospitalization records Sunday, including Ohio and Wisconsin, according to an NBC News analysis of U.S. Department of Health and Human Services data."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/omicron-variant-spreads-us-dashing-hopes-normal-christmas-rcna9350
But by all means keep supporting measures that impede vaccination and also ones that increase the danger of spread.
24 Dec 21
@no1marauder saidHopsitalizations always increase between the beginning of November and end of December.
Actually hospitalizations for COVID19 are up 39% since November 1st, Mr. What Me Worry. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/charts-covid-hospitalizations-are-rising-across-country-even-high-vaccination-n1286322
"Eight states set hospitalization records Sunday, including Ohio and Wisconsin, according to an NBC News analysis of U.S. Department of Health and Human Services d ...[text shortened]... s keep supporting measures that impede vaccination and also ones that increase the danger of spread.
I'm going to stop responding to your constant mischaracterization of my vaccine position.
@sh76 saidThose are COVID hospitalizations, not flu related ones.
Hopsitalizations always increase between the beginning of November and end of December.
I'm going to stop responding to your constant mischaracterization of my vaccine position.
Stop responding if you want but my characterizations of your positions are accurate. Opposing the modest vaccine "mandates" proposed by the Biden administration and others impedes the level of vaccination and causes more sickness, death and misery.
24 Dec 21
@no1marauder saidOkay, one last time:
Those are COVID hospitalizations, not flu related ones.
Stop responding if you want but my characterizations of your positions are accurate. Opposing the modest vaccine "mandates" proposed by the Biden administration and others impedes the level of vaccination and causes more sickness, death and misery.
Not forcing people to do something is not "impeding" it except by some twisted Orwellian definition.
24 Dec 21
@sh76 saidWhat happened to the real SH76? Posting like a moron is more of a Mott and MB thing.
Okay, one last time:
Not forcing people to do something is not "impeding" it except by some twisted Orwellian definition.
I suggest you have someone read my sentences to you; opposition to vaccine "mandates" put in place by governments and private employers does impede the level of vaccinations whether you admit it or not.
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24 Dec 21
@sh76 saidDon't you just love when
Why are we ramping up testing? It makes no sense.
I keep saying this, but folks:
WE'RE ALL GETTING EXPOSED TO COVID sooner or later
Here's a radical idea:
- Vaccinate if you want to protect yourself against serious effects of COVID.
- If you're sick, stay the F home. Whether you have COVID or flu or a cold or RSV or whatever, don't expose other people to it if you ca ...[text shortened]... l world. The testing and tracing nonsense you still hear from blue-checkmarks on Twitter is fantasy.
people submit anecdotes
as, somehow reflecting,
the bigger picture?
''Last time I wore green sox,
I broke my arm. Sure won't wear
green sox anymore.''