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@AverageJoe1 saidYou claimed climate change was a hoax. The link provided says and proves no such thing. Where are you getting your information?
We causing it.? Minimal cars relative to the size of the universe? . I could go on. This is natural, I think there’s at least one scientist that agrees with me. And certainly one that will agree with you.
This could almost be as bad as discussing natural law with marauder!!!!
Do you think we will all ever decide to do natural law? I think it is worth discussing, …that is, you and marauder discuss it.
The universe is irrelevant. Take 2 greenhouses and put them side by side and put a tiny bit of extra CO2 in the air of one of those greenhouses. Which one do you think will be warmer?
Kids can do these experiments. It's not a hoax.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidThat is misinformation from you and a lie from who told you that. Climate scientists only agree that man is a factor, not the primary factor. Most climate scientists believe the primary factor is natural causes, which it is.
Multiple studies indicate that 97% to 99.9% of actively publishing climate scientists agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change. Peer-reviewed literature shows a 99.9% consensus, and leading scientific organizations worldwide confirm that human activity is the primary driver of recent climate changes. (Our AI friend).
Let's ignore all that, as you've found a chap on Fox news who says otherwise...
A volcanic winter caused global cooling and we are warming up again. Global warming is mostly natural as it has always been. And there have been times in the past where it has been much warmer than now before man even existed. And no, it was not caused by CO2 increase.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliocene
And no. These CO2 levels are not really that high.
https://www.livescience.com/44330-jurassic-dinosaur-carbon-dioxide.html
@wildgrass saidWe don't all feel it. In fact, none of us do. Global warming is happening too slowly to feel it.we will never know in our lifetime
Really? Are you really going to make this the topic?
2023, 2024, and 2025 are the three hottest years in recorded history, in order. You want to make the argument that's a fluke? Climate change is not real?
We all feel it. The ski season is shorter. The air conditioning bill is higher. The water itself is hotter. We're going to say that is a hoax?
Why?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00946-6
"2023, 2024, and 2025 are the three hottest years in recorded history"
What do you expect when global warming is real? AJ was just sloppy saying climate change is not real. He confused global warming with climate change as many people do. He knows the ice age was real.
Ask AJ what he meant, not what he wrote. I am sure he will clarify his mistake in word choices.
@wildgrass said"Kids can do these experiments. It's not a hoax."
You claimed climate change was a hoax. The link provided says and proves no such thing. Where are you getting your information?
The universe is irrelevant. Take 2 greenhouses and put them side by side and put a tiny bit of extra CO2 in the air of one of those greenhouses. Which one do you think will be warmer?
Kids can do these experiments. It's not a hoax.
Kids can do this experiment at home too.
Cool down 2 cans of soda pop, open them both, leave one out at room temp and put the other one back in the refrigerator. Wait several hours and drink from both cans to see which one has more carbonation. The cold can of pop, because water cannot hold as much CO2 when it is warmer. That is what happens in the ocean when it warms. Temperatures drive CO2 levels higher in the atmosphere, not the other way around. Al Gore lied and gave us a backwards cause and effect.
There is no evidence higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere causes global warming. The atmosphere is too complex to determine that. Far more complex than a couple of greenhouses. There are no clouds in greenhouses.
@Metal-Brain saidIt was from Google's AI. - Take it up with them.
That is misinformation from you and a lie from who told you that. Climate scientists only agree that man is a factor, not the primary factor. Most climate scientists believe the primary factor is natural causes, which it is.
A volcanic winter caused global cooling and we are warming up again. Global warming is mostly natural as it has always been. And there have been ...[text shortened]... are not really that high.
https://www.livescience.com/44330-jurassic-dinosaur-carbon-dioxide.html
@wildgrass saidTiny bit? Probably naught.
You claimed climate change was a hoax. The link provided says and proves no such thing. Where are you getting your information?
The universe is irrelevant. Take 2 greenhouses and put them side by side and put a tiny bit of extra CO2 in the air of one of those greenhouses. Which one do you think will be warmer?
Kids can do these experiments. It's not a hoax.
@Metal-Brain saidAssuming that you 'chicken-littles' are correctd, there is only one answer. STOP all things that produce CO2 ( 🤔 ) or whatever.
That is misinformation from you and a lie from who told you that. Climate scientists only agree that man is a factor, not the primary factor. Most climate scientists believe the primary factor is natural causes, which it is.
A volcanic winter caused global cooling and we are warming up again. Global warming is mostly natural as it has always been. And there have been ...[text shortened]... are not really that high.
https://www.livescience.com/44330-jurassic-dinosaur-carbon-dioxide.html
That leaves Marauder. being proven correct, Natural Law is the only way. We all sit where we are, grow potatoes, be self reliant, leave each other the-hell-alone. I would not like growing potatoes, but i LOVE the last 2 scenarios!!!!!
@AverageJoe1 saidSo stop breathing?
Assuming that you 'chicken-littles' are correctd, there is only one answer. STOP all things that produce CO2 ( 🤔 ) or whatever.
That leaves Marauder. being proven correct, Natural Law is the only way. We all sit where we are, grow potatoes, be self reliant, leave each other the-hell-alone. I would not like growing potatoes, but i LOVE the last 2 scenarios!!!!!
More CO2 in the atmosphere means more potatoes because they will grow faster. More CO2 is a good thing. More food.
Try to avoid saying climate change and say global warming. Saying climate change is not real is like saying the last ice age never happened. The climate has always changed. And global warming is real. Global warming is natural. Man is not the main cause.
We just came out of the mini ice age (not a real ice age) so I should hope the climate is warming back up again. That cooling period was caused by the volcanic winter of 536
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter_of_536
It is hubris to think man can affect the climate more than nature with the exception of a nuclear war. But even that is not the case in reality. A big enough asteroid or comet can cause much more climate change than a nuclear war. Like the one that killed the dinosaurs. Nature is very powerful!
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@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidAI cannot tell truth from lies if the lies are widespread.
It was from Google's AI. - Take it up with them.
Temps drive CO2 levels in the atmosphere, not the other way around. The CO2 that is dissolved in the ocean is driven out when it warms. That is the source of CO2 increases and decreases in the ice core samples.
The whole global warming movement is based on a lie Al Gore promoted. A backwards cause and effect. And there is no consensus that man is the main cause of global warming by climate scientists. That is also a lie.
AI is not perfect. How can it determine fake news from the real thing? A lot of people think cow tipping is real too. It was a widespread myth and even though I grew up on a dairy farm and people in the city argued with me that cow tipping was real that had never even been on a farm. I told them that I woke up cows before and they were always laying down. They still argued with me!
It is unfortunate that some people refuse to be confused with facts. You are one of those people. Cows are big. It would take at least 6 full grown men to push over a full grown cow. Funny how all these liars that claimed they pushed over cows have no witnesses.
AI is not a lie detector.
https://www.engadget.com/ai/grok-claimed-the-charlie-kirk-assassination-video-was-a-meme-edit-175640641.html
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidai scours the internet...its result is the liberal misinformation you were gullible enough to fall for
Multiple studies indicate that 97% to 99.9% of actively publishing climate scientists agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change. Peer-reviewed literature shows a 99.9% consensus, and leading scientific organizations worldwide confirm that human activity is the primary driver of recent climate changes. (Our AI friend).
Let's ignore all that, as you've found a chap on Fox news who says otherwise...
@Mott-The-Hoople saidOh the irony.
ai scours the internet...its result is the liberal misinformation you were gullible enough to fall for
@Metal-Brain saidThe "vicious cycle" mechanisms in which one begets the other does not contradict the argument that more CO2 warms the atmosphere. In fact, there is extremely solid foundational data from physics, chemistry, biology, geology, and climatology all supporting the same conclusion.
"Kids can do these experiments. It's not a hoax."
Kids can do this experiment at home too.
Cool down 2 cans of soda pop, open them both, leave one out at room temp and put the other one back in the refrigerator. Wait several hours and drink from both cans to see which one has more carbonation. The cold can of pop, because water cannot hold as much CO2 when it is warme ...[text shortened]... o determine that. Far more complex than a couple of greenhouses. There are no clouds in greenhouses.
Another vicious cycle relates to the melting of icebergs, snow and permafrost, which release more CO2 and decrease the percentage of reflection of sunlight. This is why scientists had set up some thresholds of temperature past which it would be very difficult for humans to make the behavioral changes needed to slow it down.
We've blown past all those thresholds.
@wildgrass saidHow do you differentiate? Is AOC an expert? She said it will be over in 12 years, you recall. Naaaa, no expert. So who? You know of some? What are their predictions? Should I invest in Climate Shelters?
I'll listen to the experts, thanks though.
Will you, along with Sueann, support a presidential candidate based on their race (color) and /or their sex (female, tran, trans trans, LGQ,) or will you base your choice on policies?? She is keying in on race and sex. Really weird.