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What is democracy in the 21st century?

What is democracy in the 21st century?

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Dear chess players.
Do you think Hugo Chaves'Venezuela is just another socialist dictatorship?
Or is it called "dictatorship" only because it fights against the american influence on South America?

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They have a parliament. It's not a dictatorship.

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its a dictatorship if its anti USA or so they tell us,

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I asked that because I've heard someone within the american government who said that Venezuela is becoming a dictatorship because of the extention of presidential term limit (which was extented from 4 years to 6 years) and because of the agressive position that Venezuela (or rather Hugo Chaves) is taking against the USA.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Dear chess players.
Do you think Hugo Chaves'Venezuela is just another socialist dictatorship?
Or is it called "dictatorship" only because it fights against the american influence on South America?
socialist dictatorship?

Man, those two words don't belong side by side.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
I asked that because I've heard someone within the american government who said that Venezuela is becoming a dictatorship because of the extention of presidential term limit (which was extented from 4 years to 6 years) and because of the agressive position that Venezuela (or rather Hugo Chaves) is taking against the USA.
I think the key is: "becoming a dictatorship." From information I have read, this referenced the attempt of Chavez to become Presidente for Life. If that is accomplished I think that would prove the quote correct, saying: "becoming."

As for the previous post "its a dictatorship if its anti USA or so they tell us," If whomever said this was correct - that would mean France and Germany were dictatorships until the most recent elections, which is absolutely idiotic.

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Democracy today can sadly be accurately described as,

"the freedom to debate an issue without having the power to influence the outcome"

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Originally posted by uzless
Democracy today can sadly be accurately described as,

"the freedom to debate an issue without having the power to influence the outcome"
Wow, is that your own or a quote?

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Originally posted by agryson
Wow, is that your own or a quote?
mine

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Originally posted by uzless
mine
Sweet, I'll quote you on it.

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Originally posted by uzless
socialist dictatorship?

Man, those two words don't belong side by side.
Why not?
The Soviet Union for example was a socialist dictatorship.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Why not?
The Soviet Union for example was a socialist dictatorship.
Wasn't it a communist dictatorship?

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Originally posted by agryson
Wasn't it a communist dictatorship?
Yes, but officially it was socialist.
Socialist and communist are all left-wing political ideas, the difference is that communist is more authoritarian.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Yes, but officially it was socialist.
Socialist and communist are all left-wing political ideas, the difference is that communist is more authoritarian.
Uhm... I support neither system wholeheartedly, but I think you mistake them. Communism is a dual econopolitical theory which attempts to have people produce and consume equally to eachother rather than some fat cats having it all and the rest working their asses off. Needless to say, it's a theoretical system which is overly idealistic and can never work at a state level, hence its tendancy to degrade into dictatorships or snuff out of existence altogether. It's not however inherently authoritarian, though authoritarian regimes can be communist to a degree.
Socialism exists in all modern democracies. Socialism is simply the redistribution of wealth in part or whole. Any service or work that runs in part or whole thanks to public funds is socialist in nature, like taxes paying for education.
Regardless of it officially calling itself something or not, we must look at things for what they are. If the USSR had instead called itself "The United States of Freedom and Liberty" during the cold war, would you have said that officially it's a free and liberal country, so let's treat it so? Of course not.

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