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@Lionel-Hutz saidShooting all the hostages?
Keep your politics out of this thread.
It is about the BEST way to celebrate the pig's death.
I will start: Last night I bought a bottle of champagne and got a large 4 cheeses and mushroom pizza with thin crust.
Did you celebrate lower key or did you roll out the fancy table covers?
@Ponderable saidYou know shav better. Of course it wasn't sarcastic.
And I can only assume and hope that shavs post was sarcastic.
The worst part is that the pig engineered the death, rape, beating, and kidnapping of over one thousand human beings. Some were executed during captivity and others are babies or weakened aging human beings. Heaven knows what else they're doing to those still alive.
So, I also disagree with you. It was a Nuremberg trial and execution for the terrorist, just done quicker and simpler --and justice, as harsh as it is, is always a cause for celebration.
Justice is the second of the cardinal virtues. Virtue ought to be celebrated for it contributes to human flourishing.
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@Lionel-Hutz saidIn fact I understand the need to remove people and none of the hanged of the Nuremburg trial has any sympathy by me, neither does Sinwar.
You know shav better. Of course it wasn't sarcastic.
The worst part is that the pig engineered the death, rape, beating, and kidnapping of over one thousand human beings. Some were executed during captivity and others are babies or weakened aging human beings. Heaven knows what else they're doing to those still alive.
So, I also disagree with you. It was a Nuremberg ...[text shortened]... of the cardinal virtues.[/b] Virtue ought to be celebrated for it contributes to human flourishing.
"Celebration" is still something completely different than relief.
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@Ponderable saidLet's put it this way:
"Celebration" is still something completely different than relief.
Among the 3 major ethical theories (consequentialism, deontology, and virtue ethics), which one do you favor as the moral one?
@Ponderable saidDuh.
I am appalled.
I won't celebrate any death, not even the one of a terrorist.
And I can only assume and hope that shavs post was sarcastic.
In a thread with this title, only sarcasm and cynicism have a place.
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@Lionel-Hutz saidUhuh.
You know shav better. Of course it wasn't sarcastic.
The worst part is that the pig engineered the death, rape, beating, and kidnapping of over one thousand human beings. Some were executed during captivity and others are babies or weakened aging human beings. Heaven knows what else they're doing to those still alive.
So, I also disagree with you. It was a Nuremberg ...[text shortened]... of the cardinal virtues.[/b] Virtue ought to be celebrated for it contributes to human flourishing.
You see, @Ponderable?
People like xim/xer are the pink-haired queers-for-palestine protesters wearing a keffiyeh and threatening us outside the Synagogue*, even though (a) we aren't in the Middle East, (b) we are accompanied by family, and (c) we are at a place of worship, not a damn political rally.
Aside from our interesting ethical discussion, I must admit: Celebrating the death of their idol just to anger those antisemitic lost souls is, oh dear, cathartic.
*This is not hyperbole. The incidents in Los Angeles, New York, London, and Paris, among others, are well documented by the legacy and independent media.
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@Lionel-Hutz saidIn fact I would not put myself in either camp completely. But maybe I just didn't dive deep enough there...+
Let's put it this way:
Among the 3 major ethical theories (consequentialism, deontology, and virtue ethics), which one do you favor as the moral one?
So I like in the utilitarism that the welfare for all should rise. BUt that can lead to a problematic issue with the definition of Welfare. So one consequence could be to kill off all people beyond any given age, because they use resources that are needed by those having still more years to life. That would be far too cynical for me.
I like the idea that values should govern my deicisons. However I am lost to decide when two values clash what the higher value would be. And of course a value like "justice" is very hard to define well (Think of "all the same" vs. "to each their own"😉
I like in the deontological theory the idea that some deeds are strictly forbidden under any circumstance. On the other hand it is not to be lived in all consequence as long as some people will just disregard the rules. So yes I am in favour of the targeted shooting of a person who is about to kill someone. Tough in General I think that we would all be happier if all would abstain from killing other people.
@Lionel-Hutz saidToo early to celebrate for me. He is just one of many high-ranking terrorists that need to be killed. The day I celebrate is the day these organisations decide that fighting Israel just is not worth it, like the 2,000,000 Arabs living peacefully in Israel.
Keep your politics out of this thread.
It is about the BEST way to celebrate the pig's death.
I will start: Last night I bought a bottle of champagne and got a large 4 cheeses and mushroom pizza with thin crust.
Did you celebrate lower key or did you roll out the fancy table covers?
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@Ponderable said"To each their own" was the tile of a paper I had to write during law school.
In fact I would not put myself in either camp completely. But maybe I just didn't dive deep enough there...+
So I like in the utilitarism that the welfare for all should rise. BUt that can lead to a problematic issue with the definition of Welfare. So one consequence could be to kill off all people beyond any given age, because they use resources that are needed by thos ...[text shortened]... ough in General I think that we would all be happier if all would abstain from killing other people.
I couldn't conclude authoritatively what the heck does it mean.
Personally, I started as a deontologist but moved to natural law ethics and now I am soft landing into virtue ethics.
Life is a continuum.
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@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidYeah, wise words.
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars.."
Martin Luther King, Jr
It's so sad that such wisdom came from a plagiarist, communist, and rapist.
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