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What's to show for extra £43bn on the NHS?

What's to show for extra £43bn on the NHS?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Holy socks! An extra £43bn is a lot of spondookage to throw at health care and not see any tangible results in outcomes or quality of care:

http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2953425.ece

According to this guy, the NHS needs a massive overhaul:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/09/12/do1206.xml
nah, its worth it just so they can say how much they have spent,
thats the way politicians work here.

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Originally posted by eamon o
nah, its worth it just so they can say how much they have spent,
thats the way politicians work here.
Too true. At present Brown and Cameron are vying with each other to claim the prize for proposing to spend the most taxpayers' money on 'public services'.

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Originally posted by Cartan
I thought you would fall for that.
That took 4 edits?

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Originally posted by uzless
No amount of money will ever solve all the inherent problems of a private health care system.

So take money out of the equation and debate the merit of health care for all.
No, you've got it totally wrong.

A good analogy is to food -- food is much more important than health. Without food, there is no life, therefore no health. So how do countries get away with having 'private food systems'? Because they WORK!

You buy food, you pay for food. Food costs relatively little. (Yes, failed countries can't feed themselves. Usually because there is a dictator "in charge". Don't get me started...)

On the other hand, we have health care. So far neither private nor public systems are above criticism. Why? Because both involve extensive government regulation. Everything from restricting the supply of doctors, to requiring prescriptions for drugs, to elaborate insurance schemes.

Imagine that I had to get 'insurance' to buy a loaf of bread and then claim the money back from an insurance company! The price of bread would go up 100-fold. That is what has happened with health care.

Get the government out of the health care system, and things will go just fine.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Holy socks! An extra £43bn is a lot of spondookage to throw at health care and not see any tangible results in outcomes or quality of care:

http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2953425.ece

According to this guy, the NHS needs a massive overhaul:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/09/12/do1206.xml
No tangible results?

"There are more doctors and nurses, more intensive care beds and scanners, better hospitals, shorter waiting times, fewer heart deaths, improved cancer treatment, and better mental health care. The NHS is delivering more care to more people, more quickly and, on at least some measures, medical treatment has brought improved health"

Yes, resurrection is still not on the list.

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Originally posted by Redmike
That took 4 edits?
So, the self-proclaimed disciple of Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot rides again.

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Who is he, and what are you?