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  1. 21 May '10 01:04
    I have got to the point lately that I am just fed up with being sick and tired all the time. Too weak to lift a gallon of milk with out problems.

    I need to lose weight too. So I am taking action. Might not be the wisest thing to do. But I would rather burn out quick then flicker slowly out.



    So I have cut back on eating. WAY back. I am eating every other day. And never late at night.

    I eat breakfast and dinner. no lunch. Trying to drink more fluids.

    And I am pushing myself physically much harder too. Making myself lift and do other labor that I have problems doing. I will either get some strength back. Or get worse. But I have to do something!

    The pain has jumped up as expected. And I am more tired then ever. But at least I am taking action.

    Not sure why I am posting this. But felt like I wanted to.

    Only time will tell how it turns out.

    Besides the MS I have High blood pressure and two heart valves that leak a bit. I had a couple of small stroked a few years ago too.

    So I am well aware of what could happen. But I am fed up to HERE with feeling so helpless!

    Name with held for obvious reasons...
  2. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    21 May '10 01:11
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    I have got to the point lately that I am just fed up with being sick and tired all the time. Too weak to lift a gallon of milk with out problems.

    I need to lose weight too. So I am taking action. Might not be the wisest thing to do. But I would rather burn out quick then flicker slowly out.



    So I have cut back on eating. WAY back. I am e ...[text shortened]... pen. But I am fed up to HERE with feeling so helpless!

    Name with held for obvious reasons...
    You advocate discrimination against homosexuals.

    You want to smash your president's facec in because some soldiers died in Afghanistan.

    You are against socialism. But you want socialism to help you with your health problems and with those of some people you chat with on the net.
  3. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    21 May '10 02:54 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    I have got to the point lately that I am just fed up with being sick and tired all the time. Too weak to lift a gallon of milk with out problems.

    I need to lose weight too. So I am taking action. Might not be the wisest thing to do. But I would rather burn out quick then flicker slowly out.



    So I have cut back on eating. WAY back. I am e ...[text shortened]... pen. But I am fed up to HERE with feeling so helpless!

    Name with held for obvious reasons...
    Best of luck and feel good!
  4. 21 May '10 02:55
    Originally posted by FMF
    You advocate discrimination against homosexuals.

    You want to smash your president's facec in because some soldiers died in Afghanistan.

    You are against socialism. But you want socialism to help you with your health problems and with those of some people you chat with on the net.
    The Troll (fmf) strikes again!!!!
  5. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    21 May '10 03:59
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    The Troll (fmf) strikes again!!!!
    Troll? Ah. Water off a duck's back. Tell you what. If ever I start threads where I whinge and whinge and whinge about my - or some chat friend's - having had one baby too many, having some illness, being unable to pay for a house, spending more than is earned, or not being able to stand on one's own two feet, or take care of my health, or plan for the future, AND if I then blame my predicament on President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, then you can call me a hypocrite. It'd hurt much more than 'troll'. And you'd be right.
  6. 21 May '10 10:36
    Maybe you should move to Europe and benefit from socialized medicine immediately.
  7. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    21 May '10 10:39
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Maybe you should move to Europe and benefit from socialized medicine immediately.
    Or move to NZ and go on the socialised health care waiting list.
  8. 21 May '10 10:53
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    Or move to NZ and go on the socialised health care waiting list.
    I'm not sure Hugh Glass or his family would be too happy with your solution, though the local undertaker might be.
  9. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    21 May '10 13:37
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Maybe you should move to Europe and benefit from socialized medicine immediately.
    Doesn't seem from the OP that HG's problem is the healthcare he's received, but the health problems he has. All the great healthcare in the World is not going to eliminate problems brought on by MS, obesity and high blood pressure.

    I admire you, HG. Keep fighting the good fight. When you manage to lose some weight and regain some strength, you'll be amazed at how much better your quality of life will be. You'll also feel better about yourself and that's half the battle.

    Keep us posted on how it's going; you can count on me for virtual support.
  10. 21 May '10 15:44
    Originally posted by sh76
    Best of luck and feel good!
    That was not me,, it was another poster from the MS forum......
    I am doing just fine... can walk and talk like a regular person.
    when I was hit hard in 2003, I went on STD, and cut our budget back to the 66 2/3 of the pay which we received..... also re-financed the home backward to 30 years in anticipation of loosing more functions. I did.
    But we adapted, and are better than some......
    So does it annoy me to see people who stretched their needs on homes and got bailed out? Yes to some degree. Does it annoy me to see ads that tell people if they are over 10K in debt on credit cards, they can get help? yes to some degree.
    But does it get to a point where I loose sleep.
    No
    Still waiting to hear one good word from someone, from health care.....

    Namaste all.....
  11. 21 May '10 15:52
    Originally posted by sh76
    Doesn't seem from the OP that HG's problem is the healthcare he's received, but the health problems he has. All the great healthcare in the World is not going to eliminate problems brought on by MS, obesity and high blood pressure.

    I admire you, HG. Keep fighting the good fight. When you manage to lose some weight and regain some strength, you'll be amazed a ...[text shortened]... the battle.

    Keep us posted on how it's going; you can count on me for virtual support.
    Thanks SH76,, I am fine, these posts are from the patientslikeme forums..
    I was debating FMF on the Health care issue, told him to try a shot there, and see what they say about the plan.... you see not only do you lose the ability to work, you have huge medical costs. Medicare does not kick in for 2 years...... so how does an average person pay 1000.00 a month to keep basic insurance for 2 years?
    I paid it, to the tune of 18K for just myself, no dental, or vision. The wife and kids costs were somewhat lower, but it all adds up.
    A typical drug used to stop progression, runs 22K a year.
    I have argued against the health care plan, which would seem stupid at first glance.... but it's not a good plan. When they don't cover pre-existing conditions for 4 years, and then say the cost will be no more than 4x the price of a healthy person, that puts it right back at COBRA level for costs,, 1000.00 a month.
    How can anyone even afford that?

    I dunno. It was a mistake to post these wrtings from the MS forum without asking the people first, so that stos today. But it was an effort to get someone to realize, you have to listen to those who are experiencing these problems......
    Namaste....
    oh, I'm not obese...Lol
  12. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    21 May '10 15:53 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    That was not me,, it was another poster from the MS forum......
    I am doing just fine... can walk and talk like a regular person.
    when I was hit hard in 2003, I went on STD, and cut our budget back to the 66 2/3 of the pay which we received..... also re-financed the home backward to 30 years in anticipation of loosing more functions. I did.
    But we adapt ...[text shortened]...
    No
    Still waiting to hear one good word from someone, from health care.....

    Namaste all.....
    Okay, now I'm officially confused.

    What is this thread about?

    Edit: never mind; I see from your last post.
  13. 21 May '10 15:55 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    I have got to the point lately that I am just fed up with being sick and tired all the time. Too weak to lift a gallon of milk with out problems.

    I need to lose weight too. So I am taking action. Might not be the wisest thing to do. But I would rather burn out quick then flicker slowly out.



    So I have cut back on eating. WAY back. I am e ...[text shortened]... pen. But I am fed up to HERE with feeling so helpless!

    Name with held for obvious reasons...
    All I can say is that if you are awaiting for the government to help you out don't hold your breath. From what I hear they will be taking our tax money for the program for years before we will see a dime of it.

    Good luck to ya!!
  14. 21 May '10 16:01
    Originally posted by FMF
    You advocate discrimination against homosexuals.

    You want to smash your president's facec in because some soldiers died in Afghanistan.

    You are against socialism. But you want socialism to help you with your health problems and with those of some people you chat with on the net.
    Twisting facts is your forte alright......
    My nephew, who by the way spent 2 tours in the special forces hunting Osama, said he'd punch someone in the nose,, remember Pat Tillman??? The whole thing was a a big dam lie..... read the book. But then again, you live in your little world.
    Safely insulting those who are standing taller than yourself.
    I advocate discrimination against gays? I say marriage is between a woman and man, as GOD intended.
    See above, I took care of my own problems, I told you those posts came from the MS forum,, so you twisted that as well..... you are not only a troll, but a liar.
    If my problem takes me to a situation that I have never traveled, and things get bad, I have family to help me.... as it should be in all of our lives. If there is a strong family.. which by the way, religions practice.
  15. 21 May '10 16:04
    Originally posted by whodey
    All I can say is that if you are awaiting for the government to help you out don't hold your breath. From what I hear they will be taking our tax money for the program for years before we will see a dime of it.

    Good luck to ya!!
    whodey, I am fine. I cut the name off that post...... it wasn't me.
    I had told FMF to check out a forum, before he started touting our medical health care plan,, he didn't of course, but chose to go on tha attack again....
    there are no words to fit his personality,, none.