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  1. SubscriberWajoma
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    09 Feb '16 03:59
    Shav? No1? zalanzhi?

    Or are you going to shift the blame to the new guy. Or blame the US, or Bush or Reagen?
  2. Subscriberno1marauder
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    09 Feb '16 06:59
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    Shav? No1? zalanzhi?

    Or are you going to shift the blame to the new guy. Or blame the US, or Bush or Reagen?
    What are you trying to blame on a person who has been dead for nearly three years?
  3. Germany
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    09 Feb '16 17:22
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    What are you trying to blame on a person who has been dead for nearly three years?
    What has Maduro done that is radically divergent from Chavez' policies?
  4. Subscriberno1marauder
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    09 Feb '16 19:04
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    What has Maduro done that is radically divergent from Chavez' policies?
    Offhand, I don't know. Wajoma didn't provide any links, so I'm unsure what he is actually alleging. I know that the drop in oil prices has had a huge negative effect on the Venezuelan economy but as to what specifically the government could have done to change that, I don't know.

    In any event, to assume that Chavez would have acted the same as Maduro in the face of widely divergent circumstances is a leap of faith. That the economic situation was better for the country (and esp. the country's poor and working class) under Chavez than before or since is an undeniable statistical fact.
  5. SubscriberWajoma
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    14 Feb '16 05:492 edits
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuelas-collapse-brings-savage-suffering-1455323300

    Guess they just weren't committed enough, or it was the wrong variation of socialism, or they needed more of it, or, or ,or ??????

    There is no question Chavez put them on this road.
  6. The Catbird's Seat
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    14 Feb '16 06:23
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuelas-collapse-brings-savage-suffering-1455323300

    Guess they just weren't committed enough, or it was the wrong variation of socialism, or they needed more of it, or, or ,or ??????

    There is no question Chavez put them on this road.
    Seems socialism has some side effects.
  7. SubscriberWajoma
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    14 Feb '16 06:58
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Offhand, I don't know. Wajoma didn't provide any links, ct.
    Apologies No1, check the link for the wsj, note it post dates when this thread was started, maybe it hadn't been written, maybe there are more similar ones to come.
  8. Germany
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    14 Feb '16 08:54
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuelas-collapse-brings-savage-suffering-1455323300

    Guess they just weren't committed enough, or it was the wrong variation of socialism, or they needed more of it, or, or ,or ??????

    There is no question Chavez put them on this road.
    Very good questions, Wajoma. Let me ask them to Tage Erlander.
  9. Standard membershavixmir
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    14 Feb '16 15:58
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    Shav? No1? zalanzhi?

    Or are you going to shift the blame to the new guy. Or blame the US, or Bush or Reagen?
    I have no idea what you're jabbering on about.
  10. The Catbird's Seat
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    14 Feb '16 17:09
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    I have no idea what you're jabbering on about.
    Buy a clue.
  11. SubscriberWajoma
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    29 Feb '16 00:13
    I expect you folk choose your own news sources. Naturally the Chavez fanboys will be avoiding any news about Venezeula.

    I guess the folk that like to buy toilet paper can just leave, right.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/inflation-poverty-food-shortages-venezuela-heads-toward-disaster/2016/02/11/10aad5b4-d035-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html
  12. The Catbird's Seat
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    29 Feb '16 00:19
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    I expect you folk choose your own news sources. Naturally the Chavez fanboys will be avoiding any news about Venezeula.

    I guess the folk that like to buy toilet paper can just leave, right.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/inflation-poverty-food-shortages-venezuela-heads-toward-disaster/2016/02/11/10aad5b4-d035-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html
    As I've pointed out in other threads, it is possible to find news sources which "support" almost any point of view.
  13. SubscriberWajoma
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    29 Feb '16 00:221 edit
    Originally posted by normbenign
    As I've pointed out in other threads, it is possible to find news sources which "support" almost any point of view.
    I invite the supporters to post links to op-eds etc that comment positively about the Venezuela situation.

    Or they might like to give their own positive opinions on what is happening there.
  14. Standard membersh76
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    29 Feb '16 13:35
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    What are you trying to blame on a person who has been dead for nearly three years?
    All of Chavez' bluster now appears to have been a house of cards built on a single cash crop.
  15. Germany
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    29 Feb '16 13:53
    Originally posted by sh76
    All of Chavez' bluster now appears to have been a house of cards built on a single cash crop.
    Mostly built on idiocy. Of course, naïve treehuggers like no1 are easily fooled by someone claiming to fight the evil capitalists.
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