http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/where_have_all_the_peaceniks_g.html
Three days ago we saw the first pictures of Burmese villages being destroyed. We have learned about the massacres of monks and other civilians peacefully protesting in Burma. British PM Gordon Brown said that "the death toll in the Myanmar crackdown to be ‘far greater' than has so far been reported."
Where is the BBC? The Guardian? Der Spiegel? Der New York Times? Where are all the peaceniks of the Left? Mother Sheehan, where art thou? As far as I can tell, Burma's fascist massacres of peaceful Buddhist monks has not yet led to a peep from our self-proclaimed peaceniks. Where are they?
Over the years many liberal friends have told me they were perfectly sincere about yearning for world peace, living (as they always do), in safe neighborhoods with excellent police protection -- they never had to think about crime. They hated guns and violence. They were well-fed, and filled with pious words and good intentions, went on righteous peace marches, and always voted for the most "compassionate" smooth talker on the Left. By now, generations of Westerners have been taught to believe that peace can be achieved cheaply.
Today, many on the peacenik Left are eager to boycott Israel and protest America. But somehow they were nowhere to be found in the fight against Soviet imperialism, against Pol Pot's genocide, against Rwandan mass murder, against Balkan massacres and rape rooms, against two decades of Sudanese jihad against starving African infidels, against Saddam Hussein's torture regime, against Mahmoud A'jad's nuke program, against indoctrinated teenagers bombing innocent kids in Israel, while the terror bosses were having orgies in their mansions ... See a pattern here?
When China brutally took over Tibet. Peaceful protests only work in countries that are open to guilt. Most UN member states just don't do guilt or shame; it's not their thing. That is why they elect the Sudan and Iran to the UN Human Rights Commission.
Gandhi (who was Hindu), would never have won independence for India had the British Raj been filled with SS killers. Were he alive in Burma today, Martin Luther King would die as a total unknown, and his birthday would not be a national holiday anywhere in the world. As Burma just proved again, peaceful protests never work against genuine bad guys. That's the gaping flaw of pacifism. It only works when force establishes strong and humane governments.
Buddhism had its beginnings in India, but Buddhists can no longer be found there in large numbers. The reason? The Muslim jihad invasion of the Indian subcontinent starting in 1192. Buddhism only appears today in parts of Asia where Islam did not take over. Today, India is drawn to an alliance with the West against jihadis with nukes; they face such a possibility in Pakistan.
So --- what's really going on with our preachy pacifist friends? Are they willing to get serious, or are they just moral snobs and secret cowards? Is it heroic to protest George W. Bush in the well-policed streets of San Francisco, but not the thugs who are butchering monks in Burma today? What gives with these people?
Originally posted by MacSwainWell... you point out too many points for me to handle in one go.
But somehow they were nowhere to be found in the fight against Soviet imperialism, against Pol Pot's genocide, against Rwandan mass murder, against Balkan massacres and rape rooms, against two decades of Sudanese jihad against starving African infidels, against Saddam Hussein's torture regime,
Soviet Imperialism. The left was shouting about it. And in fact, it was generally the left who ended up in the Goulag.
Pol Pot genocide? What on earth are you talking about? The left exposed it (John Pilger nearly personally) and it was the Vietnamese army (left per definition in the 70's) which got rid of Pol Pot.
It was the US who vetoed UN help towards the rebuilding of Cambodia, which led to John Pilger creating the charity which helped out.
Saddam Hussien? You are kidding, aren't you? The left was screaming its guts out all through the 80's. Again it was the right which was funding and arming Hussein and getting him to attack Iran.
I don't know what sort of left wingers you are talking about. Go visit: www.socialistworker.co.uk and you'll be able to read articles on Sudan, ex-Yugoslavia and Rwanda.
I think you'll be sickened to discover it's generally capitalism, the right, the US and weapon dealers who are (in)directly responsible for most of these monsterous situations.
Originally posted by shavixmirDear Pooster. I've heard it said (i can't remember by whom) that George Washington was the very first terrorist. Have you heard this?
Well... you point out too many points for me to handle in one go.
Soviet Imperialism. The left was shouting about it. And in fact, it was generally the left who ended up in the Goulag.
Pol Pot genocide? What on earth are you talking about? The left exposed it (John Pilger nearly personally) and it was the Vietnamese army (left per definition in the ...[text shortened]... weapon dealers who are (in)directly responsible for most of these monsterous situations.
Granny.
Originally posted by MacSwainpeaceniks are pissed about Burma too... you're just seeing what you want to see. there have been plenty of protests.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/where_have_all_the_peaceniks_g.html
Three days ago we saw the first pictures of Burmese villages being destroyed. We have learned about the massacres of monks and other civilians peacefully protesting in Burma. British PM Gordon Brown said that "the death toll in the Myanmar crackdown to be ‘far greater' than has so ...[text shortened]... the thugs who are butchering monks in Burma today? What gives with these people?
what about Bush's hypocrisy? isn't the US willing to overthorw dictatorships to spread democracy and freedom? this is fight worth fighting and what do we hear from Bush?? grandiose moralizing, impotent condemnation, more money for Blackwater, Haliburton, none for poor children... and no action except to stay the course at all costs.
Originally posted by MacSwainhttp://www.avaaz.org/en/stand_with_burma/tf.php?cl_tf_sign=1
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/where_have_all_the_peaceniks_g.html
Three days ago we saw the first pictures of Burmese villages being destroyed. We have learned about the massacres of monks and other civilians peacefully protesting in Burma. British PM Gordon Brown said that "the death toll in the Myanmar crackdown to be ‘far greater' than has so ...[text shortened]... the thugs who are butchering monks in Burma today? What gives with these people?
Originally posted by Darth SpongePROTESTS? Strap on a 45 and go kill some commies for Christ, you big mouth sponge.
peaceniks are pissed about Burma too... you're just seeing what you want to see. there have been plenty of protests.
what about Bush's hypocrisy? isn't the US willing to overthorw dictatorships to spread democracy and freedom? this is fight worth fighting and what do we hear from Bush?? grandiose moralizing, impotent condemnation, more money fo ...[text shortened]... Haliburton, none for poor children... and no action except to stay the course at all costs.
Granny.
Originally posted by MacSwainWell, if it was up to me I'd suggest US military action to take out the current regime and bring democracy to Burma. But then that be bad, some progressives would claim the only reason I wanted to do that is to to steal Burma's mineral wealthfrom the Burmese people.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/where_have_all_the_peaceniks_g.html
Three days ago we saw the first pictures of Burmese villages being destroyed. We have learned about the massacres of monks and other civilians peacefully protesting in Burma. British PM Gordon Brown said that "the death toll in the Myanmar crackdown to be ‘far greater' than has so ...[text shortened]... the thugs who are butchering monks in Burma today? What gives with these people?
So why take the chance ?
Originally posted by smw6869Does your carer know you've stopped taking your medication?
How does being pissed off and protesting help the situation? I talked to bush this morning, it said we were going into Burma, but first we need a good withdrawal plan. Got any ideas? And ah, you're pulling point, right?
Granny.
Originally posted by SMSBear716Or possibly that the US has no right to force its own values on another sovereign nation.
But then that be bad, some progressives would claim the only reason I wanted to do that is to to steal Burma's mineral wealthfrom the Burmese people.
So why take the chance ?
