White Men Vote. Let's Act Like It.

@moonbus said
@spruce112358

I have stood outside the shop doors observing this myself. If I see they have been stopped by a house detective and I walk into the shop, and one of the girls addresses me as Papa, the reaction is always the same: – – detective looks at me, White man, sheepishly backs away and apologizes to me (not to my daughters). A dozen White girls have meanwhile left th ...[text shortened]... ed.This is White privilege in action.
It's all about skin color. This is White privilege in action.

If white people don't get searched as you suggest, then why do white people make up 70% of the people charged with shoplifting?

The stats don't seem to match your accusation.

https://www.businessdasher.com/shoplifting-statistics/

@spruce112358 said
A big-tent Democratic Party can't be this small.

by Keith Edwards

[quote]I remember talking to my dad once in the early 2010s. The term “white privilege” was moving from academic circles into the broader public’s lexicon, and he took issue with it. “I rent my house. I don’t have any savings. My parents were dead from alcoholism by the time I was 30. What kin ...[text shortened]... sage they want to hear... 😆

https://keithedwards.substack.com/p/stop-treating-white-men-like-the

Tell this to the racists and white nationalists.

@Earl-of-Trumps said
It never made sense to me that the democrats pay suit to the Black vote while insulting the White vote.

Then again, I'm not a democrat. Maybe they are on to something.

The white vote is going to be the death of us all. Maybe it already is.

One doesn't win a dog fight by unleashing Cerberus. You try the non-Cerberus option first.

Education is a real thing.

@uzless said
If white people don't get searched as you suggest, then why do white people make up 70% of the people charged with shoplifting?

The stats don't seem to match your accusation.

https://www.businessdasher.com/shoplifting-statistics/

Because shoplifting is a crime committed by stupid people 98% of the time.

@moonbus said
@spruce112358

[b]I remember talking to my dad once in the early 2010s. The term “white privilege” was moving from academic circles into the broader public’s lexicon, and he took issue with it. “I rent my house. I don’t have any savings. My parents were dead from alcoholism by the time I was 30. What kind of privilege is that?” I explained that, as a white person, he had ce ...[text shortened]... mily, liberty, all in two weeks. It's not that difficult; lots of less well-off countries manage it.

And a realization that what is causing all this 'white-man angst' is that richer and older white men than them are in charge and raping everyone, including them, for fun and profit. White people, and white men, in particular, need to reassess who their 'enemies' actually are.

"We have met the enemy and he is us." -- Walt Kelly, Pogo, April 22, 1971

EDIT: Correction on the source of this quote.

@spruce112358 said
Idk, but I can tell you how to make him a life-long Republican. 😆

Let him take the civil service exam for a job at the post office, BUT add 30 points to the scores of female POCs. Then tell him he didn't make it.

Then if he complains, call him a racist and tell him he has white privilege.

Trump voter - right there. 😆

You do realize this doesn't happen, right?

No1 is right. White guys tend to believe what white guys say and tend to not believe what non-white guys say, even if it is factual.

@Bish said
My son was in the US Air Force. At one point he was stationed at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida. On Friday nights he and his friends would drive into town for some R&R. If the driver was black - they were stopped by the police every time. If the driver was white - they were never stopped.

No opinion here - this is just what happened. 2013 I think it was - between his deployments.

As I've said numerous times: racism is not only endemic in American society, it is systemic. And it is still going on.

@uzless said
If white people don't get searched as you suggest, then why do white people make up 70% of the people charged with shoplifting?

The stats don't seem to match your accusation.

https://www.businessdasher.com/shoplifting-statistics/

70% of those arrested for shoplifting were White; I'll accept that as established. The more pertinent stat from the link you provided is that only 1 in 48 incidents leads to an arrest. The obvious conclusion is that house detectives are stopping and searching the wrong people in 47 out of 48 cases. Who do you think those 47 other people were? Could it be they were wrongly 'profiled' innocents? Naw, that'd be .....




blatant systemic racism. Can't believe that, now can we? [/sarcasm]

@Suzianne said
You do realize this doesn't happen, right?

No1 is right. White guys tend to believe what white guys say and tend to not believe what non-white guys say, even if it is factual.

No, it DID happen. To a friend of mine. 😆

Maybe AA is now dismantled - I don’t know. But the memory lingers.

This same person was told by a social worker to get a divorce so his spouse could collect more benefits. Which makes the government seem ‘anti-religion’ and ‘anti-family.’

These things happen to people and they tell the stories for years. That’s one reason Dems have a problem today. They have lost credibility and trust from decades of such actions.

@Suzianne said
As I've said numerous times: racism is not only endemic in American society, it is systemic. And it is still going on.

But government can only address systemic racism - that should not be happening. Government should protect all our rights equally - race should not come into it. 🙂

Endemic racism is, for better or worse, up to individual choice and upbringing. That stems probably partly from genetics (e.g. xenophobia) but is reinforced by training and winds up as fear of those who don't look like you. But it is not up to government to try to cure that - not that it could. 😆

@moonbus said
70% of those arrested for shoplifting were White; I'll accept that as established. The more pertinent stat from the link you provided is that only 1 in 48 incidents leads to an arrest. The obvious conclusion is that house detectives are stopping and searching the wrong people in 47 out of 48 cases. Who do you think those 47 other people were? Could it be they were wrongly 'pr ...[text shortened]... s? Naw, that'd be .....




blatant systemic racism. Can't believe that, now can we? [/sarcasm]

"69.4% of those arrested for shoplifting in 2019 were white, 26.6% were Black or African American, and 4% were from other races"

Comparing figures is hard because people define race differently, but if we accept that the US is 75% white and 13% black, we still have to adjust these shoplifting figures for socioeconomic class.

That's the most important analysis to do and people never do it! Drives me up a wall... 😆

As for 1 in 48 arrests, I suspect that most of these are let go with a warning, given the enormous ineffectiveness and slowness of the US justice system - which is a problem in itself.

@spruce112358 said
No, it DID happen. To a friend of mine. 😆

Maybe AA is now dismantled - I don’t know. But the memory lingers.

This same person was told by a social worker to get a divorce so his spouse could collect more benefits. Which makes the government seem ‘anti-religion’ and ‘anti-family.’

These things happen to people and they tell the stories for years. That’s one reason Dems have a problem today. They have lost credibility and trust from decades of such actions.

They are anecdotes.

What happens to one, through someone not doing their job, doesn't happen to everyone. The Civil Service program has been extremely fair in its normal, by law, application. Espousing errors as 'normal' is misrepresentation. Regardless of your score, you are put on a hiring list. If need causes your name to come up, even years after taking the test, you are hired, if you pass other requirements. No Civil Service official should be telling people they are 'out' from the score. I was on the list for 18 months before I was hired. The only people given additional points are veterans, who are given points and extra years counted as service. I am not a veteran.

@spruce112358 said
No, it DID happen. To a friend of mine. 😆

Maybe AA is now dismantled - I don’t know. But the memory lingers.

This same person was told by a social worker to get a divorce so his spouse could collect more benefits. Which makes the government seem ‘anti-religion’ and ‘anti-family.’

These things happen to people and they tell the stories for years. That’s one reason Dems have a problem today. They have lost credibility and trust from decades of such actions.

I believe they have lost 'credibility' mainly because they believe the Con.

A rich white guy, going around claiming these things are happening, to uplift his own race while endangering others.

This is why Trump will pardon the Jan 6 criminals. He 'needs' his personal army back.

@spruce112358 said
But government can only address systemic racism - that should not be happening. Government should protect all our rights equally - race should not come into it. 🙂

Endemic racism is, for better or worse, up to individual choice and upbringing. That stems probably partly from genetics (e.g. xenophobia) but is reinforced by training and winds up as fear of those who don't look like you. But it is not up to government to try to cure that - not that it could. 😆

That does not mean one should keep their head in the sand that some races have been held back by others. The majority in this country are white. The majority makes the laws. Not all of them have 'equality' in mind. And right now, even 'liberty' is on the back burner.

@moonbus said
@spruce112358

My two daughters are Black (adopted). When they go shopping, they are routinely stopped by house detectives and commanded to open their rucksacks. There is a common presupposition that Black people are shoplifters. I have stood outside the shop doors observing this myself. If I see they have been stopped by a house detective and I walk into the shop, and one ...[text shortened]... in action.

But yes, insulting White men is not likely to appeal to them just before an election.

We went through the same here in Pennsylvania, adopted twin boys, half Puerto Recan and half Columbian.
So they got harrassed by cops starting when they were 11, like Jonathan riding a new bike I bought him up to school nearby and a local cop pulls him over, just him, a lot of other bike riders there, but white. WHERE DID YOU GET THAT BIKE?
My dad gave it to me. We'll see about that and made him sit on the curb for a full 3/4 of an hour while he ran every check he could and then did nothing for a long time till it was obvious even to that POS cop Jonathan did nothing wrong and let him go but of course by that time he was late for class and we had to explain the situation to the teacher and staff.
That was just the beginning of a near life long bias here in our great good old boy town.
Like kids AND parents living across the street, the PARENT going 'How does it feel to be a N word, N word. ? Auto censor won't let me write the word but I think you know what that word is.,

That dude so stupid he didn't even know the difference between Latinos and blacks.
That was particularly disgusting.
And that family caused even more trouble later.

I feel for your daughters. I wonder if there is any kind of legal action you could take, obvious racial discrimination, maybe proved in court would curtail such disgusting behavior.