Originally posted by Sam The ShamOn the contrary, Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution gives the president "Power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment." A reprieve reduces the severity of a punishment without removing the guilt of the person reprieved. A pardon removes both punishment and guilt.
He just made it up
Ford pardoned Nixon, Carter pardoned some who had evaded service in the Vietnam War, George Bush Senior pardoned Reagan admin officials for Iran-Contra, including Caspar Weinberger, and Clinton infamously pardoned Marc Rich.
Originally posted by steve645Well he took care of Scooter already, so that just leaves those two border guards who shot that drug smuggler in the ass.
Every outgoing president usually gives presidential pardons to free criminal that were found guilty of crimes. Let's see who can guess the right names, or will he not do it?
Originally posted by SleepyguyYes thank you for the civics lesson we all know about the power of the president to pardon people but the boy was claiming that every president goes on a pardon spree at the end of their last term and lets scads of people free which is nonsense.
On the contrary, Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution gives the president "Power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment." A reprieve reduces the severity of a punishment without removing the guilt of the person reprieved. A pardon removes both punishment and guilt.
Ford pardoned ...[text shortened]... cials for Iran-Contra, including Caspar Weinberger, and Clinton infamously pardoned Marc Rich.
Try to keep up with what's being discussed.
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Originally posted by Sam The ShamSorry, geesh.
Yes thank you for the civics lesson we all know about the power of the president to pardon people but the boy was claiming that every president goes on a pardon spree at the end of their last term and lets scads of people free which is nonsense.
Try to keep up with what's being discussed.
Edit: Though it is true that Clinton pardoned 140 people on his last day in office.
Originally posted by Sam The ShamMmmm. No I rather think it's you that's talking nonsense in your normal graceless fashion.
we all know about the power of the president to pardon people but the boy was claiming that every president goes on a pardon spree at the end of their last term and lets scads of people free which is nonsense
1. Where in steve645's OP is there a claim that "that every president goes on a pardon spree at the end of their last term and lets scads of people free". Quote it if you would.
2. It's quite clear from your first two posts that you in fact did not "know about the power of the president to pardon people" and, indeed you did need the civics lesson from Spleepyguy.
You are not a man of much substance, are you Sam?
Originally posted by Sam The ShamActually I remember something about that. The whole thing was investigated because Marc Rich subsequently funneled a bunch of donations to Clinton's presidential library. I once heard Bill O'reilly say (not on the air but at some live event he appeared at long ago) that the reason the whole thing got dropped was because the Bush Admin struck a deal to get No Child Left Behind through. This was all early 2001 I think, before 911 when Bush was focused on domestic stuff. I remember thinking at the time how weird it was for Ted Kennedy and Bush to be shaking hands over that bill, so Orielly's comment always kinda made sense to me.
I remember Clinton getting criticized for it, didn't know it was that large a number. Wonder if he made any money off it?
Originally posted by FMF"Every outgoing president usually gives presidential pardons to free criminal that were found guilty of crimes. Let's see who can guess the right names, or will he not do it"
Mmmm. No I rather think it's you that's talking nonsense in your normal graceless fashion.
1. Where in steve645's OP is there a claim that "that every president goes on a pardon spree at the end of their last term and lets scads of people free". Quote it if you would.
2. It's quite clear from your first two posts that you in fact did [b]not "know about ...[text shortened]... the civics lesson from Spleepyguy.
You are not a man of much substance, are you Sam?[/b]
1.You can read, right?
2. Where did you get the idea that I wasn't aware of the president's power to grant pardons?
Originally posted by Sam The ShamI got the idea from your dumb, self-definingly knee-jerk posts and your uncouth attempt to cover up your haste and ignorance.
Where did you get the idea that I wasn't aware of the president's power to grant pardons?
Quote the text from steve645, as I requested. Go on! You can't, can you?
Originally posted by FMFI did quote the text, the implication is obvious.
I got the idea from your dumb, self-definingly knee-jerk posts and your uncouth attempt to cover up your haste and ignorance.
Quote the text from steve645, as I requested. Go on! You can't, can you?
To suggest thast I wasn't aware of the president's ability to pardon was idiotic of you. Every child is aware of it.
I don't argue with idiots, we're done here.