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  1. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    02 Mar '10 05:53
    Who owns the sky?
  2. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    02 Mar '10 06:25
    The Americans, of course.

    They also own your arse.
  3. 02 Mar '10 11:19 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    Who owns the sky?
    You cannot own something that doesn't have a definite existence. You might be able to copyright it though.

    As for airspace, I believe there are international laws about how high above a country you have to go to avoid the risk of being shot down - or generally complained about depending on the weaponry available.
  4. 02 Mar '10 11:20
    That depends on the legal system of course. But in practise I think it's usually whoever owns the patch of land beneath it, to reasonable limits.
  5. 02 Mar '10 11:24
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    That depends on the legal system of course. But in practise I think it's usually whoever owns the patch of land beneath it, to reasonable limits.
    I think the land owner only owns a very small area above the land. Here in cape town you need permission from your neighbors before you build upwards because you might be blocking their line of sight. Also if you go a little higher you enter the airspace used by aircraft etc and I think the government controls that ie you cant tell planes not to fly over you, but the government can tell you not to fly your kite/hot air balloon in their airspace.
    Much higher up where the satellites roam its first come first serve.
  6. 02 Mar '10 11:31 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    I think it's usually whoever owns the patch of land beneath it, to reasonable limits.
    Does this mean that I own the moon, if it happens to sweep through in exact zenith over my garden, even for a minimal time period?
  7. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    02 Mar '10 11:31
    Originally posted by FMF
    Who owns the sky?
    It hasn't been privatised yet.
  8. 02 Mar '10 11:38
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Does this mean that I own the moon, if it happens to sweep through in exact zenith over my garden, even for a minimal time period?
    Would that be "reasonable"?
  9. 02 Mar '10 11:45 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Would that be "reasonable"?
    Reasonable or not, I cannot do anything with the moon during this short time. Like sell it or so.
    So it will be only in my mind that I am the richest person in the world, and in the next instant my neighbour is.
  10. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    02 Mar '10 11:47
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Would that be "reasonable"?
    Imagine the discussions about where the exact center of the Earth is.
  11. 02 Mar '10 12:00
    Originally posted by FMF
    Who owns the sky?
    Whoever shoots you down for flying in it.
  12. 02 Mar '10 12:07
    Originally posted by Seitse
    The Americans, of course.

    They also own your arse.
    Er...um....don't you mean China?
  13. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    02 Mar '10 14:13
    Originally posted by FMF
    Who owns the sky?
    City of Newark v Eastern Airlines, 159 F. Supp 750 (D.N.J. 1958)

    http://www.legallynoted.com/preview_note.php?filename=City-of-Newark-v-Eastern-Airlines1251402933.pdf

    At least according to this American federal court, the sky is public domain; as KN said, beyond the reasonable reaches of your property.
  14. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    02 Mar '10 14:40
    Originally posted by FMF
    Who owns the sky?
    "The President in Washington sends word that he wishes to buy our land. Buy our land! But how can you buy or sell the sky? the land? The idea is strange to us."

    -Chief Seattle (attributed)
  15. 02 Mar '10 14:42
    US Army Paratroopers do.