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  1. Behind the scenes
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    04 Oct '18 09:031 edit
    "The Donald" has caused a lot of turmoil has he not? His list of shady business deals, crazy behavior, and less than dignified language is long. So, who's to blame for all of this? Well, Donald and his GOP minions in a way, but there is a larger problem here. In a country of over 225 million eligible voters, less than 130 million (58 percent) bothered to vote. What happened to the other 90+ million? It's not all voter suppression and Russian hacking that's to blame, folks. Much of this has to do with plain old apathy.


    Every nation gets the government it deserves.

    -Joseph de Maistre: 1753 - 1821




    https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final-count/index.html

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voter-turnout-2016-elections
  2. SubscriberSuzianne
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    04 Oct '18 09:20
    @mchill said
    "The Donald" has caused a lot of turmoil has he not? His list of shady business deals, crazy behavior, and less than dignified language is long. So, who's to blame for all of this? Well, Donald and his GOP minions in a way, but there is a larger problem here. In a country of over 225 million eligible voters, less than 130 million (58 percent) bothered to vote. What happened to ...[text shortened]... ar-vote-final-count/index.html

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voter-turnout-2016-elections
    I went round with you on this right after the election. Remember when Trump was saying right before the election that the election was rigged? He wasn't warning us, he was bragging. The fix was already in. 7 million registered voters in this country were stripped from the voter rolls, mostly from swing states. The vast majority of these 7 million were people of color, who overwhelmingly vote Democratic. I'm not saying that voter apathy didn't play a part, but when combined with Kris Kobach and his Interstate Crosscheck lists, it was enough to push Trump over the edge.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-247905/

    https://www.gregpalast.com/crosscheck-overwhelmingly-purges-legitimate-voters/
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    04 Oct '18 11:00
    LOL...is this the crying thread?
  4. SubscriberSuzianne
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    04 Oct '18 12:20
    @mott-the-hoople said
    LOL...is this the crying thread?
    No, that's Thread 178701.
  5. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    04 Oct '18 12:35
    I believe DEMOCRACY is about everyone
    getting an informed say in Government.

    That is increasingly difficult with
    media bias
    educational bias
    news bias
    and ...
    fake news
  6. SubscriberWajoma
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    04 Oct '18 13:00
    @mchill said
    "The Donald" has caused a lot of turmoil has he not? His list of shady business deals, crazy behavior, and less than dignified language is long. So, who's to blame for all of this? Well, Donald and his GOP minions in a way, but there is a larger problem here. In a country of over 225 million eligible voters, less than 130 million (58 percent) bothered to vote. What happened to ...[text shortened]... ar-vote-final-count/index.html

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voter-turnout-2016-elections
    The main motivation for getting off ones ass and going to vote is not to vote for someone but to make sure the other fellow does not get in. Or in this case the main motivation for Trump was hillary and the hysteria of folk such as suzi, zalooney and sonhouse. As little as their influence is it was on balance better for Trump than against.
  7. Behind the scenes
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    04 Oct '18 13:32
    @suzianne said
    I went round with you on this right after the election. Remember when Trump was saying right before the election that the election was rigged? He wasn't warning us, he was bragging. The fix was already in. 7 million registered voters in this country were stripped from the voter rolls, mostly from swing states. The vast majority of these 7 million were people of color, w ...[text shortened]... nst-voters-247905/

    https://www.gregpalast.com/crosscheck-overwhelmingly-purges-legitimate-voters/
    Let us assume you're right Suzianne and 7 million voters of color were stripped from being able to vote. What about the other 83+ million??
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    04 Oct '18 13:37
    @mchill said
    Let us assume you're right Suzianne and 7 million voters of color were stripped from being able to vote. What about the other 83+ million??
    47% of the democrat base is on fed assistance as romney stated...they are not prone to get off their a ss.
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    47% of the democrat base is on fed assistance as romney stated...they are not prone to get off their a ss.

    And this cannot begin to compete with the corporate welfare our government is shelling out to the Fortune 500. If you want to tell a story about welfare, then tell the WHOLE story, not just the part of it FOX News and the GOP feel comfortable with!

    Disclaimer: The links below contain some big words. Conservative discretion is advised.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2014/03/14/where-is-the-outrage-over-corporate-welfare/#640f21d127dd

    https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/subsidies-galore-corporate-welfare-politically-connected-businesses
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    @mchill said
    47% of the democrat base is on fed assistance as romney stated...they are not prone to get off their a ss.

    And this cannot begin to compete with the corporate welfare our government is shelling out to the Fortune 500. If you want to tell a story about welfare, then tell the WHOLE story, not just the part of it FOX News and the GOP feel comfortable with!

    Disclaimer: The ...[text shortened]... cato.org/publications/commentary/subsidies-galore-corporate-welfare-politically-connected-businesses
    jobs come from these corporations...they are necessary for our economy. Of course liberals think the govt just creates money out of thin air.
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    04 Oct '18 15:52
    @mchill said
    Let us assume you're right Suzianne and 7 million voters of color were stripped from being able to vote. What about the other 83+ million??
    What if those who lost the ability to vote were in key states, in key gerrymandered districts cleverly designed so the loss of those votes keeps the present power structure firmly in place in SPITE of the 'other 83 mil'?
  12. Behind the scenes
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    04 Oct '18 16:19
    @mott-the-hoople said
    jobs come from these corporations...they are necessary for our economy. Of course liberals think the govt just creates money out of thin air.
    Earth to Mott...Earth to Mott. I am a business owner and I create jobs too. No one is sending me free stuff like the Fortune 500. Why do you have your nose so far up their a-s?? Do you like it there??
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    04 Oct '18 16:30
    @mchill said
    Earth to Mott...Earth to Mott. I am a business owner and I create jobs too. No one is sending me free stuff like the Fortune 500. Why do you have your nose so far up their a-s?? Do you like it there??
    LOL...too stupid to reply to.
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