@Rajk999 saidNone of that changes anything.
Here are some reasons for wealth and poverty from the Bible, and it is mostly about the decisions you make as a young adult. Often the input of the parents are critical for young people to be successful. Some communities have a very high % of broken homes, and fatherless children who grow up in gangs and drugs.
Marriage, family and life advice from the Bible:
- Work har ...[text shortened]... any poor are that way because all of their decisions are foolish. Cant blame anyone but themselves.
It's considered lazy to receive government assistance but only if youre poor.
If you're rich, it is smart to receive government assistance. The rich demand more government assistance than the poor do, and they also exploit loopholes in the tax codes that allow them to avoid paying into the system. They're leeches who also don't work in jobs that benefit society like janitors and teachers and bus drivers.
@wildgrass saidIts does actually, because you made these two statements :
None of that changes anything.
It's considered lazy to receive government assistance but only if youre poor.
If you're rich, it is smart to receive government assistance. The rich demand more government assistance than the poor do, and they also exploit loopholes in the tax codes that allow them to avoid paying into the system. They're leeches who also don't work in jobs that benefit society like janitors and teachers and bus drivers.
Rich kids are rich because of advantages given to them ...
Poor kids are poor for reasons outside their control ...
- Since there are a very small minority of parents who can transfer $3 million worth of assets to their kids, this is not a correct statement about why some children become rich.
- Rising out of poverty is in fact within the control of many people once they make the right decisions and have the appropriate guidance from their parents.
Both your statement are incorrect, and what is worse it demonstrates the kind of mentality and attitude that leads to continuous failure.
@Rajk999 saidLol both of those statements are 100% correct and you write nothing that contradicts either of them.
Its does actually, because you made these two statements :
Rich kids are rich because of advantages given to them ...
Poor kids are poor for reasons outside their control ...
- Since there are a very small minority of parents who can transfer $3 million worth of assets to their kids, this is not a correct statement about why some children become rich.
- Risin ...[text shortened]... d what is worse it demonstrates the kind of mentality and attitude that leads to continuous failure.
@wildgrass saidCase in point: Musk.
None of that changes anything.
It's considered lazy to receive government assistance but only if youre poor.
If you're rich, it is smart to receive government assistance. The rich demand more government assistance than the poor do, and they also exploit loopholes in the tax codes that allow them to avoid paying into the system. They're leeches who also don't work in jobs that benefit society like janitors and teachers and bus drivers.
https://goodjobsfirst.org/elon-musks-business-empire-is-built-on-38-billion-in-government-funding/
@wildgrass saidWhile at DOGE he gutted the federal Department of occupational safety, and hazards protections. Guess which company had the most open investigations against it for violations of safety standards for its workers?
The dude about to be a trillionaire thanks to us taxpayers. He can't at least pay us back the initial investment?
@Mott-The-Hoople saidTotally clear you LOVE all the above.
your dream of a gubmint check and cheese being threatened?
@Mott-The-Hoople saidNo, he is saying nobody cares. Do you someone will be moved by that post? Nobody cares.
paul wants to hear the part about homosexuals
@wildgrass saidPay ‘us’ back?? Did we help him get to building a craft today, 24/7, that your astronaut grandson will ride to Mars?
The dude about to be a trillionaire thanks to us taxpayers. He can't at least pay us back the initial investment?
What small mindedness.
@Bish saidI agree that you have a garden in your back yard for your family, Moonbeam lives next door and gets all the veggies and distributes them to the neighborhood. Not much left for your wife and 3 kids.
This one?
this guy?
My friend, I am fairly sure that the judges don't care about the people, just the arguments.
Here is this guy's argument.
Today, January 15, 2026, the United States of America has enough resources to feed every man, woman, and child in the world.
Everyone.
We chose to use our resources elsewhere.
Do you disagree?
There is no answer for you,,,,,unless....unless,,,,,unless, you crawl to the government for assistance, which would be money from a fund that people like that very neighbor has paid into.
Catch 22? Vicious circle? Unending Cycle? Socialism? Bootstrap pulling? Begging? Abandon family? Throw in the towel? Give up? Rob a store?
Let that be my agreement. You a Mandamican??
@AverageJoe1 saidI wrote this to the bish person a few days ago, nailed it of course.
Go Bish.
I will put it this way, even Sue will get it. How will the judges react when your ‘argument’ is rooted in your religious beliefs?
Seems he has disappeared from the thread.
@wildgrass saidI am sure it would be the one who worked for his success. The one not born into money.
Imagine two kids, one growing up poor having to work for everything and maybe not knowing where the next meal is coming from. The other kid has a silver spoon from birth, a trust fund from Daddy Warbucks and a company credit card at age 8.
Which one do you think will have a better work ethic?
@AverageJoe1 saidRaising taxes is good. Importing poor people is good. The two are not related.
…..and demand that we raise taxes to support them?
Does anyone think this makes sense, look what Somali nationals cost us,……and that does not include the $9Billion in fraud money.
High Welfare Use Figures: A 2025 Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) study found high rates —-81%___ of Somali households in Minnesota using some welfare, compared to 21% for native hou ...[text shortened]... am talking money here.
Why do immigrants want to get into the USA more than ANY other country??
@AverageJoe1 saidThat's not the one who gets rich though is it?
I am sure it would be the one who worked for his success. The one not born into money.