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27 Sep 05
27 Sep 05
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowThe only thing immoral about homosexuality is the serious newspapers calling 'gay parades' the gay movement.
A new thread for this sub arguement. I really want to know why ivanhoe, dog, etc. think this, but don't want to steer the other thread off its more legal based train of thought.
27 Sep 05
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowBecause the Bible or some other book; group of virginal or self-righteous men in funny robes and funnier hats, says so.
A new thread for this sub arguement. I really want to know why ivanhoe, dog, etc. think this, but don't want to steer the other thread off its more legal based train of thought.
To Shav: Aren't parades supposed to be gay?
27 Sep 05
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowYour title inplies that YOU think homosexuality is immoral.
A new thread for this sub arguement. I really want to know why ivanhoe, dog, etc. think this, but don't want to steer the other thread off its more legal based train of thought.
You assert homosexuality to be immoral and then ask .. why?
Why do you think homosexuality is immoral?
If you don't .. shouldn't the question be .. "IS homosexuality immoral?"
27 Sep 05
Originally posted by KneverKnightI know many a homosexual and none of them would want to be seen hetero at a gay parade, never mind dead.
Because the Bible or some other book; group of virginal or self-righteous men in funny robes and funnier hats, says so.
To Shav: Aren't parades supposed to be gay?
27 Sep 05
Originally posted by jammerActually my title implies no such thing. I ask why first, setting it up as a question. And I am looking for answers from your side only here. I agree with those who say it isn't, trying to understand this sub arguement of those opposed to gay marriage.
Your title inplies that YOU think homosexuality is immoral.
You assert homosexuality to be immoral and then ask .. why?
Why do you think homosexuality is immoral?
If you don't .. shouldn't the question be .. "IS homosexuality immoral?"
28 Sep 05
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowI always err on the side of freedom. Straight people should never be in
A new thread for this sub arguement. I really want to know why ivanhoe, dog, etc. think this, but don't want to steer the other thread off its more legal based train of thought.
a position of power over the rights of gays and they should never be in
a position of power over the body rights of women. If men were the
ones actually having the babies, they might not be so quick to judge
women who want abortions. We should be free to go to hell in a
handbasket any way we want, freedom to smoke what we want, drink
what we want, with the proviso that the freedom to swing your fist
ends at the other persons nose. So homosexuality is just one more
thing PRONOUNCED to be immoral by straights so uptight their poop
is the size of pencils.
28 Sep 05
Originally posted by sonhouseShould pregnant women be allowed to smoke and drink and take drugs? Should only women have a say in such a matter?
I always err on the side of freedom. Straight people should never be in
a position of power over the rights of gays and they should never be in
a position of power over the body rights of women. If men were the
ones actually having the babies, they might not be so quick to judge
women who want abortions. We should be free to go to hell in a
handbaske ...[text shortened]... more
thing PRONOUNCED to be immoral by straights so uptight their poop
is the size of pencils.
I wish life was simple.
28 Sep 05
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowThe only somewhat secular argumentation against homosexuality of which I am aware comes from the conservative pen of Roger Scruton, one of the few philosophers to write about sexual desire.
A new thread for this sub arguement. I really want to know why ivanhoe, dog, etc. think this, but don't want to steer the other thread off its more legal based train of thought.
Here's a taster:
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/sexuality/se0121.html
His point seems to be that the endorsement of homosexuality encourages the dangerous decoupling of sex from procreation, which impairs the quality of intimate relationshsips, and puts society at risk of not reproducing successfully. Note that he does not anywhere invoke God.
28 Sep 05
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeIt's all one giant slippery slope. Just like hopscotch. If you're not careful you just slip right in.
The only somewhat secular argumentation against homosexuality of which I am aware comes from the conservative pen of Roger Scruton, one of the few philosophers to write about sexual desire.
Here's a taster:
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/sexuality/se0121.html
His point seems to be that the endorsement of homosexuality encourages th ...[text shortened]... puts society at risk of not reproducing successfully. Note that he does not anywhere invoke God.