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Contrary to you, fellas on the forum, Trump is not the reason for the cost of high prices. Long-term tariff results aside for a moment, the reason prices go up is because of devaluation of the dollar. Trump is beside himself mad at Powell, who willnot reduce his rates. If the rates are reduced, the value of the dollar goes up. Which means the cost of goods would go down. So this is evidence of your man Trump trying to do the right thing and running this country. Take it for what it’s worth.
@AverageJoe1 saidTake it for what it’s worth.
Contrary to you, fellas on the forum, Trump is not the reason for the cost of high prices. Long-term tariff results aside for a moment, the reason prices go up is because of devaluation of the dollar. Trump is beside himself mad at Powell, who willnot reduce his rates. If the rates are reduced, the value of the dollar goes up. Which means the cost of goods would go down. ...[text shortened]... f your man Trump trying to do the right thing and running this country. Take it for what it’s worth.
That's pretty impressive Joe. You clearly have a firm grasp on the economic issues we face today. 🙂
"Just humor him mchill - maybe he'll go away" 😏
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@Ponderable saidWhy indeed.
If the rates are reduced, the value of the dollar goes up.
Is there any reasonable economist following that thesis?
And if so why didn't generations of Fed-bosses?
Of course my comment is general, as there’s no question that when the dollar loses value that the price of goods goes up, do you deny that?
So, if Powell lowers the rate, do you think the market will respond positively?
@AverageJoe1 saidYou misspelled 'ruining'.
Contrary to you, fellas on the forum, Trump is not the reason for the cost of high prices. Long-term tariff results aside for a moment, the reason prices go up is because of devaluation of the dollar. Trump is beside himself mad at Powell, who willnot reduce his rates. If the rates are reduced, the value of the dollar goes up. Which means the cost of goods would go down. ...[text shortened]... f your man Trump trying to do the right thing and running this country. Take it for what it’s worth.
@AverageJoe1 saidThis is why we generally do not put ignoramuses in control of the Fed.
Why indeed.
Of course my comment is general, as there’s no question that when the dollar loses value that the price of goods goes up, do you deny that?
So, if Powell lowers the rate, do you think the market will respond positively?
@AverageJoe1 saidSo we have first to define "value"
Why indeed.
Of course my comment is general, as there’s no question that when the dollar loses value that the price of goods goes up, do you deny that?
So, if Powell lowers the rate, do you think the market will respond positively?
I hope we can agree that inflation decreases the value of the money?
@Ponderable saidIt does
So we have first to define "value"
I hope we can agree that inflation decreases the value of the money?
@AverageJoe1 saidFollow the bouncing ball joe.
It does
Fed reduces rates, money becomes cheaper, everyone takes on more debt and inflation becomes turbo charged. Repayments on debt increase, rinse and repeat until hello Weimar Germany....
And if the Fed finally balks at buying more treasuries and liquidity dries up, then I hope you know your REM, cos its the end of the world as we know it......
@kmax87 saidI'll go with Bessent
Follow the bouncing ball joe.
Fed reduces rates, money becomes cheaper, everyone takes on more debt and inflation becomes turbo charged. Repayments on debt increase, rinse and repeat until hello Weimar Germany....
And if the Fed finally balks at buying more treasuries and liquidity dries up, then I hope you know your REM, cos its the end of the world as we know it......
@AverageJoe1 saidSo Inflation has several possible reasons:
It does
* There is more money than goods. Of course the rpice of goods rises. That "more money"" can have several sources:
1) The government is printing more to pay for thier deficit.
2) banks giev at low rates, so that epople can spend.
Clear so far?
@Ponderable saidYou think the govt is printing money to pay for deficit?? Do you think the govt should control the amount of interest a bank charges? Should govt tell Musk how much money he should be allowed to have? You fellers need to let water seek its own level.
So Inflation has several possible reasons:
* There is more money than goods. Of course the rpice of goods rises. That "more money"" can have several sources:
1) The government is printing more to pay for thier deficit.
2) banks giev at low rates, so that epople can spend.
Clear so far?
If I discover the cure for aids, and see that Musk has $1T, I am going to charge the govt $1T for my formula. If they do not want to pay it, I will simply keep my formula in the safe by my fireplace.
You visit with Trump at the Oval. What will y'all do?
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@AverageJoe1 saidYou are already in interpretation.
You think the govt is printing money to pay for deficit?? Do you think the govt should control the amount of interest a bank charges? Should govt tell Musk how much money he should be allowed to have? You fellers need to let water seek its own level.
If I discover the cure for aids, and see that Musk has $1T, I am going to charge the govt $1T for my formula. If t ...[text shortened]... formula in the safe by my fireplace.
You visit with Trump at the Oval. What will y'all do?
On source of inflation by "too much money around" is that governemnts hit the prrinting press to pay for their debts.
True or false?
Edit: I could put it in the past tense "...in the past money surplus was an effect of governments increasing amount of money"
@Ponderable saidNo offense, but I Iike batting ideas around with liberals, that is the entertainment. I occasionally throw out a thread like this, true, mainly to let you all know that Trump tries like heck to clean up the Biden debacle...so that you will all see that he tries. But he is surrounded by econ gurus and they outthink you and me. Like, Truman would have been shut down by Shav, but Truman knew more than Shav would have.
You are already in interpretation.
On source of inflation by "too much money around" is that governemnts hit the prrinting press to pay for their debts.
True or false?
Edit: I could put it in the past tense "...in the past money surplus was an effect of governments increasing amount of money"
If you want to discuss the money iin DC and how it is misused, you need think only about the Biden years. Number One, why didn't HE do something about it, instead of deciding in the shower one morning to pay off the debts of loser college grads? Why did you not go the DC and tell him to help the homeless?
Then you have the haywire Sonhouse, no entertainment there. Would you rather respond to his questions, or mine, like the interesting query of a guy who wants $1T for his aids cure? It is his, it is in his safe. Atlas Shrugged fodder.