Because they are only good for defense. The only time a nation nuked another is when nobody else had nukes. So why do people have an irrational fear that Iran will use them if they get them? Propaganda. That is why.
No nation has even nuked another nation that has nukes. There is not a single example in history that this has happened. People sometimes threaten to use them, but never use them. Nobody is stupid enough to use them first. Especially on another nation with nukes. So they are only good for defense unless you want to go down in history as a super evil person.
Why would any sane person think Iran would nuke another nation that has nukes? You would have to think they are suicidal. So you have to think that they are. That is where the propaganda comes in. They have to convince you that they are crazy. They are not crazy and they have never threatened to nuke anybody.
So why do people think Iranians are crazy? Probably because a lot of people think Iranians are Arabs. They remember some suicide bombers that sacrificed themselves for a cause so they think to themselves that everybody knows Arabs are suicidal so they are crazy. But Iranians are not Arabs. They are Persians and who has heard of a Persian suicide bomber? Makes no sense.
The propaganda depends on past statements. Not actions, just statements. So the politicians say they chanted death to America and they want to wipe Israel off the map. Well those chants were from a very long time ago, but since America and Israel are bombing them I think it can be expected that people might be saying stuff like that lately, but you have to expect that if your daughter was killed by a Tomahawk missile in a girl school.
Iran never called for killing any Jews in Israel. They called for an end to the Zionist regime, not the people of Israel. Iran has nothing against Jews. Lots of Jews live peacefully in Iran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Jews
The real reason the USA and Israel regimes do not want Iran to get a nuke is because they want to invade Iran. They have wanted to do that since the brutal dictator the US installed into power in Iran by a CIA coup was overthrown. The US encouraged Saddam Hussein to start a war with Iran and helped Saddam use chemical weapons (WMDs) against the Iranians. But they were just using Saddam to do this because the US armed Iran and betrayed Saddam because they wanted to invade Iraq too. The US armed both sides of the war to weaken them both. This was revealed in the Iran/Contra investigation.
Most Americans are ignorant to this history, but the Iranians are not.
It is painfully obvious the Iranians will not welcome their invaders and will fight a ground war hard. It will be super expensive and you will pay for it in money and blood. Don't believe Trump or Rubio when they claim they will not put boots on the ground. Regime change is the whole purpose of this war and that cannot be done by bombing alone. And nobody destroys that much wealth unless they want to control the oil really badly and that can only be done with a ground war.
Iran is not a threat to the world. Netanyahu is a liar.
Iran was not going to take over the middle east. Nor was Iran going to get a nuke in 2 to 4 weeks. Trump is a liar.
As early as 2012, analysts warned that U.S. and Israeli officials had repeatedly predicted an imminent Iranian nuclear bomb—first by 2000, then 2005, 2010, and 2015—none of which materialized, drawing comparisons to the flawed intelligence that led to the Iraq War.
https://www.livemint.com/news/world/iranisrael-conflict-benjamin-netanyahus-3-decade-long-nuke-bomb-alarm-the-boy-who-cant-stop-crying-wolf-11750395152766.html
Iran was nowhere close to getting a nuclear weapon. That is a lie too. And even if they get one they would never use one first. Nobody has done that except the US regime when they used them on Japan. Apparently Americans need reminding of this.
@Metal-Brain saidThere it is.
Every country in the world should have nuclear weapons. Nobody would invade anymore countries for fear they would get nuked. I fully support Iran getting nukes.
Peace by nukes.
You are insane.
@Suzianne saidYou are stupid.
There it is.
You are insane.
So the world history proving nobody is stupid enough to use nukes except the USA is irrelevant? Your logic seems to be that because the USA used them when nobody else had them Iran will even though nobody has used them since.
Why would Iran nuke the USA or Israel. Both nations have nukes. That would be suicidal. The Iranians are not crazy. Trump and Netanyahu are the crazy bastards. Starting a war to achieve peace is illogical. Look at the mess Trump created.
Average Joe told me Iranians are suicidal. Is that what you think too?
Iran has never attacked another country.....ever!
@Metal-Brain saidYou seem to compare Iran to other countries? A mistake. Do they ‘think’ like other countries? Same goals? What are their goals? Right, u don’t know.
Because they are only good for defense. The only time a nation nuked another is when nobody else had nukes. So why do people have an irrational fear that Iran will use them if they get them? Propaganda. That is why.
No nation has even nuked another nation that has nukes. There is not a single example in history that this has happened. People sometimes threaten to use t ...[text shortened]... that except the US regime when they used them on Japan. Apparently Americans need reminding of this.
“”So why do people have an irrational fear that Iran will use them if they get them? Propaganda. “
Their raving and suicidal existence is what is irrational, little feller. Are ALL of you posters pacifists.
Do they take a bath? If I ask one over for dinner, can I tell him not to wear his usual stink clothes, but rather a shirt and pants? And take a bath ?
@AverageJoe1 saidYou seem to think you know what the Iranian regime is thinking.
You seem to compare Iran to other countries? A mistake. Do they ‘think’ like other countries? Same goals? What are their goals? Right, u don’t know.
“”So why do people have an irrational fear that Iran will use them if they get them? Propaganda. “
Their raving and suicidal existence is what is irrational, little feller. Are ALL of you posters pacifists.
Do ...[text shortened]... can I tell him not to wear his usual stink clothes, but rather a shirt and pants? And take a bath ?
Do you read minds?
47 years ago they said death to America. That is your evidence they have intentions of killing us all? Because they chanted death to America nearly half a century ago? How stupid are you?
The CIA overthrew their democracy and replaced it with a brutal dictatorship. Look up Operation Ajax. If China did that here how would you feel about China? Would you welcome them with flowers?
@Metal-Brain saidRead between my lines....I am saying what they are N O T thinking, don't you see?? They do not think rationally, they do not think like normal people. Neither did Hitler nor PolPot, the list goes on. I m saying What they are NOT thinking.
You seem to think you know what the Iranian regime is thinking.
Do you read minds?
47 years ago they said death to America. That is your evidence they have intentions of killing us all? Because they chanted death to America nearly half a century ago? How stupid are you?
The CIA overthrew their democracy and replaced it with a brutal dictatorship. Look up Operation Ajax. If China did that here how would you feel about China? Would you welcome them with flowers?
I know faeries do not like language like this, from AVJOE, nor language like that of Trump, but we need to wipe them out. I know, I know, I hate it too, but not as squeamish as faeries.
@AverageJoe1 said" They do not think rationally, they do not think like normal people."
Read between my lines....I am saying what they are N O T thinking, don't you see?? They do not think rationally, they do not think like normal people. Neither did Hitler nor PolPot, the list goes on. I m saying What they are NOT thinking.
I know faeries do not like language like this, from AVJOE, nor language like that of Trump, but we need to wipe them out. I know, I know, I hate it too, but not as squeamish as faeries.
Again, do you read minds? The CIA overthrew their democracy and replaced it with a brutal dictatorship. How would you feel about China or Russia if they did that here? Answer the question. You would hate them and say death to China. Right?
If you said death to China would that make you an irrational terrorist?
Look up Operation Ajax. The corporate news media omits this from their reporting for a reason. You are not supposed to know of the evil the CIA did to them. You are being told one side of the story.
@Metal-Brain saidFirst paragraph only says ‘why’ Iran did something. Who cares why they did it. Wasted comment.
" They do not think rationally, they do not think like normal people."
Again, do you read minds? The CIA overthrew their democracy and replaced it with a brutal dictatorship. How would you feel about China or Russia if they did that here? Answer the question. You would hate them and say death to China. Right?
If you said death to China would that make you an irratio ...[text shortened]... are not supposed to know of the evil the CIA did to them. You are being told one side of the story.
You compare us to a chinee hypothetical??
Then how do we know of what you call evil if it is a secret? Do you think we should abort the CIA along with ICE and Trump? And what about NASA spending money on the Moon Folly, it could be going to the masses.
What else do we need to get rid of? How about the stock exchange where free men meet to freely trade money around and risk their money???? Should we stop them from doing that?!?!? Trading their personal money around, some getting more than others and renting a house in the Caribbean? Should we ban that practice?
There are a LOT of unanswered queries on the Forum.
@AverageJoe1 saidYour dismissal of proper context and the real motivations due to that context is noted. You are protecting the false narrative propaganda. Like the corporate news media, you don't want to discuss "Operation Ajax".
First paragraph only says ‘why’ Iran did something. Who cares why they did it. Wasted comment.
You compare us to a chinee hypothetical??
Then how do we know of what you call evil if it is a secret? Do you think we should abort the CIA along with ICE and Trump? And what about NASA spending money on the Moon Folly, it could be going to the masses.
What e ...[text shortened]... e Caribbean? Should we ban that practice?
There are a LOT of unanswered queries on the Forum.
Operation Ajax was a horrible wrong imposed on the people of Iran by the USA and UK. The CIA (led by Kermit Roosevelt) overthrew Iran's first and last democracy and installed a brutal dictator with torture chambers and all. The Shah and his Savak.
@Metal-Brain saidFirst, I do not care anything about past history with Iran. Why would I, since they have tried to kill a lot of our people, already over 600 of them, and kept our hostages for 450 days. We do not care about old history, do we? Are you suggesting some consideration on our part that we look back and weep about Iran.? Not me. I am in the now, Bring them to their knees. The brutal dictators, who threw gay people off of buildings. Why do you love Iran so much. You don’t really, you actually hate Trump, and the Iran scenario is just a device, a vehicle for you to vent.
Your dismissal of proper context and the real motivations due to that context is noted. You are protecting the false narrative propaganda. Like the corporate news media, you don't want to discuss "Operation Ajax".
Operation Ajax was a horrible wrong imposed on the people of Iran by the USA and UK. The CIA (led by Kermit Roosevelt) overthrew Iran's first and last democracy and installed a brutal dictator with torture chambers and all. The Shah and his S
Ajax?
@AverageJoe1 saidSo you actually think there could be a GOOD nuclear war?
Next you bleeding hearts will be saying we misunderstood Hitler.
@AverageJoe1 saidThen stop lying about being at war with them for "47 years".
First, I do not care anything about past history with Iran. Why would I, since they have tried to kill a lot of our people, already over 600 of them, and kept our hostages for 450 days. We do not care about old history, do we? Are you suggesting some consideration on our part that we look back and weep about Iran.? Not me. I am in the now, Bring them to their knees ...[text shortened]... you actually hate Trump, and the Iran scenario is just a device, a vehicle for you to vent.
Ajax?
@AverageJoe1 said" I do not care anything about past history with Iran. "
First, I do not care anything about past history with Iran. Why would I, since they have tried to kill a lot of our people, already over 600 of them, and kept our hostages for 450 days. We do not care about old history, do we? Are you suggesting some consideration on our part that we look back and weep about Iran.? Not me. I am in the now, Bring them to their knees ...[text shortened]... you actually hate Trump, and the Iran scenario is just a device, a vehicle for you to vent.
Ajax?
That is why you are so ignorant. Worse than that, you are willfully ignorant. You are afraid of the truth. In fact, terrified of it. You are a coward.