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If a candidate for high office does a spectacularly poor job in managing his own family's finances, why on earth should we trust him in a national leadership position at a time of acute economic crisis?

Senator Joe Biden's recently disclosed tax returns display a consistent pattern of poor judgment and shabby values that ought to disqualify him for the vice presidency or any other post of significant responsibility, writes Michael Medved:


http://ksky.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2008/09/24/bidens_financial_history_disqualifies_him_for_high_office

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
If a candidate for high office does a spectacularly poor job in managing his own family's finances, why on earth should we trust him in a national leadership position at a time of acute economic crisis?

Senator Joe Biden's recently disclosed tax returns display a consistent pattern of poor judgment and shabby values that ought to disqualify hi ...[text shortened]... /columnists/MichaelMedved/2008/09/24/bidens_financial_history_disqualifies_him_for_high_office
This is a good point. W. had a very shabby record...couldn't manage to turn a profit during the oil boom. Couldn't manage a pro baseball team. Etc.

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Originally posted by MrHand
This is a good point. W. had a very shabby record...couldn't manage to turn a profit during the oil boom. Couldn't manage a pro baseball team. Etc.
atleast W never told a man bound to a wheelchair to stand for him....

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Originally posted by NimzovichLarsen
atleast W never told a man bound to a wheelchair to stand for him....
Yeah, instead, he thought women should put food on their families.

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Originally posted by MrHand
This is a good point. W. had a very shabby record...couldn't manage to turn a profit during the oil boom. Couldn't manage a pro baseball team. Etc.
There's no one named Bush in this election.

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I was just illustrating your point for you with a real world example.

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Originally posted by MrHand
I was just illustrating your point for you with a real world example.
I illustrated my point with a real world example: Biden's tax returns.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I illustrated my point with a real world example: Biden's tax returns.
I disagree. You provided cause for concern. Your argument was that if he does X (taxes) badly and qualities required for doing X badly are presumed to be required for Y (V-Pres.), then he would do Y badly also.

However, you did not have emprical evidence to support your argument that Biden would do Y badly.

I provided that with W's example. W did X (previous business) badly and also did Y (Pres.) badly.

A simple thank you for my assistance would suffice.

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Originally posted by MrHand
I disagree. You provided cause for concern. Your argument was that if he does X (taxes) badly and qualities required for doing X badly are presumed to be required for Y (V-Pres.), then he would do Y badly also.

However, you did not have emprical evidence to support your argument that Biden would do Y badly.

I provided that with W's example. W did X ( ...[text shortened]... ss) badly and also did Y (Pres.) badly.

A simple thank you for my assistance would suffice.
I have heard this out of many, just curious what does "W" have to do with the future presidents or vice presidents?

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Originally posted by torch71
I have heard this out of many, just curious what does "W" have to do with the future presidents or vice presidents?
In case you couldn't tell, I was being rather tongue in cheek. However, to answer your question seriously, I believe we can draw certain conclusions based on his methods and style....just as we can learn lessons from all of our history.

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Originally posted by MrHand
In case you couldn't tell, I was being rather tongue in cheek. However, to answer your question seriously, I believe we can draw certain conclusions based on his methods and style....just as we can learn lessons from all of our history.
Conclusions as to what exactly?

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Originally posted by torch71
Conclusions as to what exactly?
For example:

We pushed very strongly to have Georgia included in NATO. Meanwhile, we were pushing very hard on expanding our missile defense. Both of these were clearly and strongly opposed by Russia. This was done in a largely unilateral way. Result: current relationship with Russia worst it has been since Cold War era.

We pushed, largely unilateraly, for war in Iraq..... etc.

Lesson: unilateral foreign policy is usually unsuccessful.

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Originally posted by MrHand
For example:

We pushed very strongly to have Georgia included in NATO. Meanwhile, we were pushing very hard on expanding our missile defense. Both of these were clearly and strongly opposed by Russia. This was done in a largely unilateral way. Result: current relationship with Russia worst it has been since Cold War era.

We pushed, largely unilateraly, for war in Iraq..... etc.

Lesson: unilateral foreign policy is usually unsuccessful.
well maybe we should let the feelings of other nations guide our foreign policy....

don't you think Georgia should be in Nato?

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Originally posted by NimzovichLarsen
well maybe we should let the feelings of other nations guide our foreign policy....

don't you think Georgia should be in Nato?
I think that it is critical that global policies have, at least, formidable alliances. The US with a reluctant UK does not consitute a formidable alliance (e.g. Iraq).

I do not think that Georgia belongs in NATO right now. No. Or do you think that we should go to war with Russia over it?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
If a candidate for high office does a spectacularly poor job in managing his own family's finances, why on earth should we trust him in a national leadership position at a time of acute economic crisis?

Senator Joe Biden's recently disclosed tax returns display a consistent pattern of poor judgment and shabby values that ought to disqualify hi ...[text shortened]... /columnists/MichaelMedved/2008/09/24/bidens_financial_history_disqualifies_him_for_high_office
Let me get this straight.

Is it your belief that Biden's skinflint attitude towards charity reflects his inability to negotiate
economic challenges in the White House, but Bush's repeated business failures previous to his
election did not?

Whom would you say is a better businessman: Bush or Biden? Why?

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