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    Why did the Europeans decimate the native American populations when they first arrived in the Americas and not vice versa?

    Obviously the answer is because the Europeans had been exposed to more pathogens over the millennia than the early native Americans. So what does this say about the two cultures if anything? Did the Europeans live like vermin compared to their native American counterparts?
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    10 Apr '16 11:45
    Europeans had much wider trade networks.
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    10 Apr '16 11:501 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Europeans had much wider trade networks.
    But I thought that Asians populated the Americas
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    10 Apr '16 12:44
    Originally posted by whodey
    But I thought that Asians populated the Americas
    If Native Americans once migrated from Asia it doesn't mean they kept trading with Asians, now does it?
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    10 Apr '16 13:51
    Originally posted by whodey
    But I thought that Asians populated the Americas
    The Americas were populated a relatively long time ago. Most of the diseases in question were relatively new to Europe too and had decimated the Europeans when they first arrived in Europe.

    It is possible, though not confirmed, that syphilis came from the Americas and did, quite seriously affect the Europeans.
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    10 Apr '16 14:00
    Originally posted by twhitehead

    It is possible, though not confirmed, that syphilis came from the Americas and did, quite seriously affect the Europeans.
    That claim is gaining acceptance:
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/case-closed-columbus/
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    Europeans are a weed-like virus...
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    10 Apr '16 14:232 edits
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Europeans are a weed-like virus...
    Back with your self-loathing libtard hate-whitey garbage ?
    Move somewhere else and get back to us on how much you like it. Tell us all about how wonderful everyone else is.
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    10 Apr '16 15:471 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    The Americas were populated a relatively long time ago. Most of the diseases in question were relatively new to Europe too and had decimated the Europeans when they first arrived in Europe.

    It is possible, though not confirmed, that syphilis came from the Americas and did, quite seriously affect the Europeans.
    Since these diseases developed in Europe, what does that say about their sanitation compared to those in the Americas if anything?

    I think the issue is sanitation in large city dwellings in Europe compared to the smaller village settings in the Americas
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    10 Apr '16 16:111 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Since these diseases developed in Europe, what does that say about their sanitation compared to those in the Americas if anything?

    I think the issue is sanitation in large city dwellings in Europe compared to the smaller village settings in the Americas
    Yeah the cities were smelly cesspools back then, the indians were basically just camping out in relatively small numbers by rivers and lakes so they didn't have sanitation problems.
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    10 Apr '16 16:301 edit
    Originally posted by FishHead111
    Yeah the cities were smelly cesspools back then, the indians were basically just camping out in relatively small numbers by rivers and lakes so they didn't have sanitation problems.
    That must be it then.

    Thread closed. Another problem solved by Whodey! 😵
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    10 Apr '16 16:35
    Originally posted by whodey
    Since these diseases developed in Europe, what does that say about their sanitation compared to those in the Americas if anything?

    I think the issue is sanitation in large city dwellings in Europe compared to the smaller village settings in the Americas
    They didn't 'develop in Europe'. They came from various parts of Asia and Africa, and before that, who knows? Look up each disease in turn to learn its history, each one is unique. Some had to so with sanitation, some were related to fleas and rats, some were spread through sex (and thus aggravated by war), some affected mostly the poor, some affected everyone equally.

    If you really want to learn more about it, then this is an excellent lecture series from Yale University:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3AE7B3B6917DE8E6
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    10 Apr '16 16:47
    Originally posted by FishHead111
    Back with your self-loathing libtard hate-whitey garbage ?
    Move somewhere else and get back to us on how much you like it. Tell us all about how wonderful everyone else is.
    You're like a turd which just keeps floating, no matter how often one flushes.
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    10 Apr '16 16:59
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    You're like a turd which just keeps floating, no matter how often one flushes.
    Answer me.
    If Europeans are such an evil virus then why do you live among them?
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    10 Apr '16 17:041 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Since these diseases developed in Europe, what does that say about their sanitation compared to those in the Americas if anything?

    I think the issue is sanitation in large city dwellings in Europe compared to the smaller village settings in the Americas
    Most of them came from China actually.
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