Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperI trust my own and their judgment far more than the self-serving pronouncements of a marionette like yourself or of politicians (some wearing uniforms) attempting to justify the unjustifiable.
no1, seriously, how are you Wikileaks or the NYTs even qualified to determine what information is usable and what is not, or what possible impact it can have?
In a democracy, the people have the right to know the truth. There's a long and sordid history of all governments, including this one, of trying to deceive the people particularly as regards squalid adventures like Afghanistan. The New York Times published the Pentagon Papers almost 45 years ago to the same predictable chorus of "national security" and attempts to suppress the ugly truth. I suspect in time the Wikileaks action of this week will be seen in the same favorable light as publication of the Pentagon Papers is. Perhaps, just perhaps, it can help end this useless, bloody and futile fiasco.
Originally posted by no1marauderSelf serving? Oh OK you got me. It serves me personally to lie to a few people I don't even know on a chess website.
I trust my own and their judgment far more than the self-serving pronouncements of a marionette like yourself or of politicians (some wearing uniforms) attempting to justify the unjustifiable.
In a democracy, the people have the right to know the truth. There's a long and sordid history of all governments, including this one, of trying to d ...[text shortened]... gon Papers is. Perhaps, just perhaps, it can help end this useless, bloody and futile fiasco.
That's right! You deserve the truth! BTW, what revelation did you learn from these papers? What big scandal did they break?
Hundreds of Afghan lives have been put at risk by the leaking of 90,000 intelligence documents to WikiLeaks because the files identify informants working with NATO forces.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/27/leaked-afghan-war-files-expose-identities-informants/
But hey, who on the left cares about the lives of people helping the US military forces?
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Originally posted by whodeyThe Viet Cong were beaten back and they militarily lost the Tet Offensive. I think. Could be wrong.
How is measuing how much of the country and indication of how powerful they have become?
It reminds me of all the claims about the Viet Cong were beaten back and the supposide beaten foe then launched the now famous Tet Offensive.
I would say that half arsed political wars like Korea and Vietnam should be shining examples of what not to do. You don't p ...[text shortened]... the arse. In fact, now Korea and Vietnam are armed to the hilt as a result of what the US did.
EDIT - That doesn't matter though, it was what we call in chess a sacrifice. They won politically which is what matters in the end.