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Are we seriously to believe that the United States government has not influenced the decision of various corporations to withhold services that only a week or so ago, prior to the publishing of certain correspondences within the public domain, were fully operative. Is this the first internet war? Indeed, if its a popularity war, who thinks that the US government will stand a chance?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11935539

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Are we seriously to believe that the United States government has not influenced the decision of various corporations to withhold services that only a week or so ago, prior to the publishing of certain correspondences within the public domain, were fully operative. Is this the first internet war? Indeed, if its a popularity war, who thinks that the US government will stand a chance?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11935539
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Are we seriously to believe that the United States government has not influenced the decision of various corporations to withhold services that only a week or so ago, prior to the publishing of certain correspondences within the public domain, were fully operative. Is this the first internet war? Indeed, if its a popularity war, who thinks that the US government will stand a chance?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11935539
In this age of redistribution, it would seem that no one respects the right to privacy or property. In fact, what if we all knew your deep dark secrets?

No matter your opinions of the information in these documents, the fact remains that they were stolen so you get what you get. Can he be turned into a Robin Hood type of theif with popularity to boot? Only time will tell.

HIs targets are the largest governments in the world as well as the banking system. My only question is why didn't he just go after the mob as well? 😛

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Originally posted by whodey
In this age of redistribution, it would seem that no one respects the right to privacy or property. In fact, what if we all knew your deep dark secrets?

No matter your opinions of the information in these documents, the fact remains that they were stolen so you get what you get. Can he be turned into a Robin Hood type of theif with popularity to boot? ...[text shortened]... ll as the banking system. My only question is why didn't he just go after the mob as well? 😛
Maybe he can celebrate his big win over the Americans by throwing a party in his Swedish prison resort with the 52 inch HDTV with the free hookers they probably give you in Swedish prison, unlimited beer (though I hear that if you committed a violent crime, they make you drink Budweiser) and steaks, as he serves his 12 day sentence for aggravated rape.

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Originally posted by whodey
In this age of redistribution, it would seem that no one respects the right to privacy or property. In fact, what if we all knew your deep dark secrets?

No matter your opinions of the information in these documents, the fact remains that they were stolen so you get what you get. Can he be turned into a Robin Hood type of theif with popularity to boot? ...[text shortened]... ll as the banking system. My only question is why didn't he just go after the mob as well? 😛
stolen? are you saying that the information was copyrighted?, if it was not copyrighted then how could it be stolen, if find it utter hypocritical that the United states government and its corporate interests purport to safeguard individual freedoms when quite clearly this is simply another instance of suppression of the rights of freedom, but we knew that already. I personally plan to boycott amazon, paypal and all those other flunkie organisations that have cowed to pressure from the United states government by infringing upon the rights of the individual and freedom of expression.

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Originally posted by sh76
Maybe he can celebrate his big win over the Americans by throwing a party in his Swedish prison resort with the 52 inch HDTV with the free hookers they probably give you in Swedish prison, unlimited beer (though I hear that if you committed a violent crime, they make you drink Budweiser) and steaks, as he serves his 12 day sentence for aggravated rape.
practically irrelevant for indeed one just man can become an army, you people despise the snake because it has no horns, but cannot say that it will not become an dragon.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
stolen? are you saying that the information was copyrighted?, if it was not copyrighted then how could it be stolen, if find it utter hypocritical that the United states government and its corporate interests purport to safeguard individual freedoms when quite clearly this is simply another instance of suppression of the rights of freedom, but we kne ...[text shortened]... ed states government by infringing upon the rights of the individual and freedom of expression.
The information in question was classified government information that was not suppose to be released to the public. So if not, why then is the US government so upset over it being leaked?

I suppose it is kind of like you confiding in someone you love your secrets. They then tell everyone about them. You said those things in confidence with the understanding that they are to tell no one, only, these secrets may cost lives. In short, whoever leaked this information should get jail time or worse.

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Isn't it stealing to take documents that do not belong to you?

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Originally posted by quackquack
Isn't it stealing to take documents that do not belong to you?
Well if I take something you have and you have no copyright laws to say it was yours or no recipt to prove that it was yours or no liscence to say it is yours then obviously it now belongs to me. 😀

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Originally posted by quackquack
Isn't it stealing to take documents that do not belong to you?
What does the "Freedom of the Press" and the First Amendment prohibiting infringements of it mean to you?

From what I understand, no actual documents were stolen anyway; files on computers were simply downloaded.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
stolen? are you saying that the information was copyrighted?, if it was not copyrighted then how could it be stolen, if find it utter hypocritical that the United states government and its corporate interests purport to safeguard individual freedoms when quite clearly this is simply another instance of suppression of the rights of freedom, but we kne ...[text shortened]... ed states government by infringing upon the rights of the individual and freedom of expression.
so, its not the theft unless its copyrighted? what if your pc was hacked into? is all your info and private emails copyrighted? would you view it as stolen then?

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
so, its not the theft unless its copyrighted? what if your pc was hacked into? is all your info and private emails copyrighted? would you view it as stolen then?
Hacking into a PC isn't "theft".

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Originally posted by no1marauder
What does the "Freedom of the Press" and the First Amendment prohibiting infringements of it mean to you?

From what I understand, no actual documents were stolen anyway; files on computers were simply downloaded.
that doesnt apply to stealing classified documents. there are proper channels to go through. FOIA

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Hacking into a PC isn't "theft".
so if your passwords,pin numbers,personal emails,bank statements,etc were taken and posted on line for all the world to see what would you call it?

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
so if your passwords,pin numbers,personal emails,bank statements,etc were taken and posted on line for all the world to see what would you call it?
There's various federal laws covering such behavior but they are considered "frauds" or "invasions of privacy" rather than "thefts".