1. SubscriberSuzianne
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    25 Feb '17 13:57
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    I only coined "Trumpian truth" last week and already people are using it.

    It's basically a lie so obvious that the whole world knows it, but that the liar can't seem to see so himself.
    Even before that we had the "Eladar truth", which was basically the same thing.
  2. Standard memberAThousandYoung
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    25 Feb '17 20:381 edit
    Witches are just Nordic pagans anyway not diabolists necessarily

    Trump's newfound Christianity can protect him but only if he really has faith...does he?
  3. Standard memberfinnegan
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    26 Feb '17 21:042 edits
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Oh, look , the Libs have the devil on their side.
    https://extranewsfeed.com/a-spell-to-bind-donald-trump-and-all-those-who-abet-him-february-24th-mass-ritual-51f3d94f62f4#.qytadrab7
    Christians have always insulted pagans by alleging that they are worshipping the devil, while carefully absorbing as much pagan religion and ritual as possible into their own system. Actually, the devil or Satan belongs in the Christian cosmology, and also in its sister religion Islam, far more than in authentic pagan thinking,

    A useful corrective is to notice the description of what type of spells are advocated:

    "Binding spells, or defixiones, are some of the oldest in the historical record, and are nearly universal in the world’s magical systems. In this document, binding, which seeks to restrain someone from doing harm, is differentiated from cursing or hexing, which is meant to inflict harm on the target(s). It is understood, in this context, that binding does not generate the potential negative blowback from cursing/hexing/crossing, nor does it harm the caster’s karma.

    As you see, the intention is to prevent harm and not to cause or inflict harm, even on Trump himself or herself. Indeed, the article goes on to show concern for the well being also of the people invoking these spells:

    "The spell in this document was carefully crafted, in structure and language, to avoid unintended psychic consequences, but adding a prayer and invoking the blessing of your preferred deity(s) should not be neglected.
    Another added benefit: this working has an embedded self-exorcism. Just peforming it will result in a lightening of the spirit, an easing of tension, and a banishing of the gnawing Trumpian egregore. And who doesn’t need that?"


    In short, it is not appropriate to say that the people invoking this spell are working with the devil. Instead, they are doing what good Christians do in the face of evil, and speaking to imaginary deities / spirits / saints / entities in the hope of magical intervention to protect them and make then feel more secure; a bit like a political placebo effect.

    You do know that a big reason for the successful spread of Christianity was its absorption of pagan beliefs virtually intact, with some unimportant name changes. It is not hard to reverse that process, for example by recognising the point of Christmas as a mid winter celebration, relevant only in the Northern hemisphere, far enough North to experience the depression of short days and long winter nights. .
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