Originally posted by rooktakesqueenThe world financial markets are absolute proof against this. If someone was able to predict the future correctly even 90% of the time, that person would in a very short time own everything that is buyable. This has not happened so accurately predicting the future is not possible.
is there actual proof that the future can be predicted, if so, what is that proof?
Originally posted by moweutAll this proves is that it is not possable right now
The world financial markets are absolute proof against this. If someone was able to predict the future correctly even 90% of the time, that person would in a very short time own everything that is buyable. This has not happened so accurately predicting the future is not possible.
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A proof requires more than just a single case. I don't see that phrase in the original question.
is there actual proof that the future can be predicted, if so, what is that proof?
One case where the future was predicted is enough to prove that it CAN be predicted.
Originally posted by PalynkaNo, that was just luck. You have no proof that you actually predicted the future.
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[b]is there actual proof that the future can be predicted, if so, what is that proof?
One case where the future was predicted is enough to prove that it CAN be predicted.[/b]
You can structure the argument in two ways.
You can accumulate case after case of correctly predicting things and show that that is extremely unlikely to be just due to luck. That's a huge amount of statistical (empirical) evidence. Not a proof, but enough for most people.
OR you can show mathematically that prediction of a future event is possible.
The second is an intruiging question.
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Originally posted by spruce112358then let me ask you this...if there was no empirical evidence that someone or something is predecting the future is that still luck even if its 100% accurate?
No, that was just luck. You have no proof that you actually predicted the future.
You can structure the argument in two ways.
You can accumulate case after case of correctly predicting things and show that that is extremely unlikely to be just due to luck. That's a huge amount of statistical (empirical) evidence. Not a proof, but enough for most people.
Originally posted by spruce112358If it's one action we're predicting, then it's clear that it is possible. If it's the entire universe, obviously it is impossible.
No, that was just luck. You have no proof that you actually predicted the future.
You can structure the argument in two ways.
You can accumulate case after case of correctly predicting things and show that that is extremely unlikely to be just due to luck. That's a huge amount of statistical (empirical) evidence. Not a proof, but enough for most p ...[text shortened]... tically that prediction of a future event is possible.
The second is an intruiging question.
I don't see what you're getting at.
Do you think that the fact that error exists prevents all possibility of prediction?
Originally posted by PalynkaI'm splitting hairs. It's what I do.
If it's one action we're predicting, then it's clear that it is possible. If it's the entire universe, obviously it is impossible.
I don't see what you're getting at.
Do you think that the fact that error exists prevents all possibility of prediction?
Obviously there are things that can be predicted with essentially 100% accuracy -- the sun comes up every morning. The question is, why do we know that?
Well, you say, it always has for billions of years. But I say, just because it always has doesn't mean it will tomorrow (And one day, I will be right -- but leave that aside).
The question is, is there a way to logically argue from some premise that a future event WILL occur. That means you will be 100% right no matter what -- no reliance on the past. Just pure reasoning.
My sense is, "no". But I can't prove it.
Originally posted by spruce112358Fine by me. Let's split some hairs.
I'm splitting hairs. It's what I do.
Obviously there are things that can be predicted with essentially 100% accuracy -- the sun comes up every morning. The question is, why do we know that?
Well, you say, it always has for billions of years. But I say, just because it always has doesn't mean it will tomorrow (And one day, I will be right -- but le ...[text shortened]... no reliance on the past. Just pure reasoning.
My sense is, "no". But I can't prove it.
There's no 100% accuracy about the present or the past, why demand it for the future?
Originally posted by rooktakesqueensome people can predict but even if he can predict the future the people wont believe him ... the proof is like a ghost . u cant see it . it just happen without notice...
is there actual proof that the future can be predicted, if so, what is that proof?