"you don't know what you've got till it's gone'

From Joni Mitchell, Big yellow taxi.

I am referring to our democracy.
Those of you frothing at the mouth to get rid of it won't like the results when all of a
sudden AR15 style weapons are used on peaceful protesters and you need passports to go from one state to another and POTUS using that power to protect real crims who are his buddies but crushes those he thinks of as enemies.
And they keep winning no matter how many people vote against him.

Like I said, you won't like it when our democracy is actually history.

You don't know what you've got till it's gone, a powerful verse from Joni.

@sonhouse said
From Joni Mitchell, Big yellow taxi.

I am referring to our democracy.
Those of you frothing at the mouth to get rid of it won't like the results when all of a
sudden AR15 style weapons are used on peaceful protesters and you need passports to go from one state to another and POTUS using that power to protect real crims who are his buddies but crushes those he thinks of ...[text shortened]... y is actually history.

You don't know what you've got till it's gone, a powerful verse from Joni.

@Lipareeno
And folks like you WANT an end to democracy here. Like I said. You won't like it much when it happens for real.

@sonhouse said
@Lipareeno
And folks like you WANT an end to democracy here. Like I said. You won't like it much when it happens for real.

@AverageJoe1
I could care less what you or anyone else thinks about Hilary, I don't especially like her but she would have made a better POTUS than Trump EVER DID AND EVER WILL.
I would make a better POTUS than Trump, a fukking MONKEY would be a better POTUS than your corrupt hero.
Like I said, if and when we actually lose democracy here you won't like the consequences but it will be WAY too late to save your sorry ass.

@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
I could care less what you or anyone else thinks about Hilary, I don't especially like her but she would have made a better POTUS than Trump EVER DID AND EVER WILL.
I would make a better POTUS than Trump, a fukking MONKEY would be a better POTUS than your corrupt hero.
Like I said, if and when we actually lose democracy here you won't like the consequences but it will be WAY too late to save your sorry ass.

JUDGE LUTTIG IS A STAUNCH RESPECTED CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN. HIS CREDENTIALS ARE IMPECCABLE.

June 18, 2022
Heather Cox Richardson
7 hr ago
Of all we have heard at the hearings of the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol, Judge J. Michael Luttig’s testimony on Thursday stands out. Luttig is a leading conservative thinker, a giant in Republican legal circles, who worked in the Reagan administration, was appointed by President George H. W. Bush to a federal judgeship, and was on the short-list for a Supreme Court seat during President George W. Bush’s term. In January 2021, then–vice president Mike Pence’s staff turned to him for support to make sure Pence didn’t agree to count out electors; Luttig opposed the scheme absolutely.

Luttig’s words carry weight among Republican lawmakers.

On Thursday, Judge Luttig examined the ongoing danger to democracy and located it not just on former president Donald Trump and his enablers, but on the entire Republican Party of today, the party that embraces the Big Lie that Trump won the 2020 election, the party that continues to plan to overturn any election in which voters choose a Democrat.

“[T]he former president and his party are today a clear and present danger for American democracy,” Luttig reiterated to NPR’s All Things Considered.

And, as if in confirmation, delegates to a convention of the Texas Republican Party today approved platform planks rejecting “the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and [holding] that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States”; requiring students “to learn about the dignity of the preborn human,” including that life begins at fertilization; treating homosexuality as “an abnormal lifestyle choice”; locking the number of Supreme Court justices at 9; getting rid of the constitutional power to levy income taxes; abolishing the Federal Reserve; rejecting the Equal Rights Amendment; returning Christianity to schools and government; ending all gun safety measures; abolishing the Department of Education; arming teachers; requiring colleges to teach “free-market liberty principles”; defending capital punishment; dictating the ways in which the events at the Alamo are remembered; protecting Confederate monuments; ending gay marriage; withdrawing from the United Nations and the World Health Organization; and calling for a vote “for the people of Texas to determine whether or not the State of Texas should reassert its status as an independent nation.”

Luttig said that Republicans must start speaking to Democrats as ”fellow Americans that have a shared destiny and shared hopes and dreams for America.” “We cannot have in America either political party behaving itself like the Republican Party has since the 2020 election.”

I’ve been thinking a lot since Thursday of Luttig’s clear-eyed view of the dangers we face in this country today, and of his willingness to cast aside old political loyalties to call them out in order to protect our democracy. They remind me of nothing so much as Abraham Lincoln’s description of the way northerners reacted to the 1854 passage of a law permitting the spread of enslavement into western lands from which it had previously been excluded. The passage of that law woke up Americans who had not been paying attention, and convinced them to work across old political lines to stop oligarchs from destroying democracy. Northerners were “thunderstruck and stunned; and we reeled and fell in utter confusion. But we rose each fighting, grasping whatever he could first reach—a scythe—a pitchfork—a chopping axe, or a butcher's cleaver” to push back against the oligarchic enslavers, Lincoln later said. Regardless of where they started politically, they stood up for democracy together. And while they came from different parties, he said, they were “still Americans; no less devoted to the continued Union and prosperity of the country than heretofore.”

Over the course of the next decade, that new coalition argued and struggled and took the nation in an entirely new direction. It fought and won a war that involved more than two million men and cost more than $5 billion, established our first national money, welcomed immigrants, created public colleges, invented the income tax, gave farmers land, built transcontinental railroads, and—finally—ended human enslavement in the U.S. except as punishment for a crime for which a person had been duly convicted.

And, of course, it saved the nation from those seeking to destroy it.

“[T]o my knowledge, I’ve never spoken publicly a single word of politics,” Luttig told NPR about his extraordinary statements. In a later note he added: “I wanted to do this for America and I understood I had an obligation to do it for America. It was my ‘moment’ in my life to stand up, step forward, and bear witness to what I believe and what I do not believe.”

—

Notes:

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/18/republican-party-texas-convention-cornyn/

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/18/texas-gop-platform-gender-sexuality-preborn/

https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/facts.htm

https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/6-Permanent-Platform-Committee-FINAL-REPORT-6-16-2022.pdf

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/18/1106089263/former-federal-judge-warns-of-danger-to-american-democracy

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/16/us/j-michael-luttig-tweets-pence-trump.html

JMLuttig to HCR, June 17, 2022.

Abraham Lincoln, Peoria Speech, October 16, 1854 https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/peoriaspeech.htm

@Mott-The-Hoople
Here is a hint: Hilary is last century news, creeps like you keep harping on her because you want to divert attention away from your traitorous sociopathic ex POTUS.

@mott-the-hoople said
do you think hillary lying about Trump and the govt institutions fbi ect helping her are good for democracy?

@sonhouse

The USA was strong under Trump and you know it. Everyone knows it.

@athousandyoung said
Are you people STILL talking about Hillary?!

@lipareeno said
Said the guy who still talks about Trump and Bush and how California got taken.

@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
I could care less what you or anyone else thinks about Hilary, I don't especially like her but she would have made a better POTUS than Trump EVER DID AND EVER WILL.
I would make a better POTUS than Trump, a fukking MONKEY would be a better POTUS than your corrupt hero.
Like I said, if and when we actually lose democracy here you won't like the consequences but it will be WAY too late to save your sorry ass.

@lipareeno said
@sonhouse

The USA was strong under Trump and you know it. Everyone knows it.