@AverageJoe1 saidTrump is deporting fewer immigrants than Biden.
This is a bit off subject, but y'all have whined how we need immigrants!! Well, if we need them as the job market picks up steam,,,,follow me....we will invite some select (non-DEI) qualified workers to have a green card and come-a-runnin.
Point is, just because we reduce their numbers now, does not mean that we cannot increase their numbers as needed, How WE want to do it....not how they want to do it.
@sonhouse saidHe let NARA have the 15 boxes on Jan. 18 2022 according to your own timeline. NARA asked and they received. Trump gave NARA the classified documents. That is how NARA knew he had them and informed the DOJ.
Like I said to less than average Joe. KISS MY ASS COMMIE COMRADE MENTOR OF PUTIN.
HERE is the REAL timeline, he NEVER volunteered a fuuking paper.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indicted-mar-a-lago-documents-investigation-timeline/
That is how it got started. Trump did not hide the classified documents. He didn't bother taking any of them out of the boxes before he let NARA have them. He didn't care if NARA found them. You act as if NARA had to break down the door to Mara Lago and seize the documents. NARA didn't even know there were classified documents mixed in until Trump let them have those boxes.
Stop trying to rewrite history. Your own link proves you wrong you silly man. Trump out himself by being so cooperative with NARA.
@Metal-Brain saidThankyou. It is refreshing to read your post after reading Sunhouse post. I wish he could write like you do, we may actually glean huge stuff from his posts.
He let NARA have the 15 boxes on Jan. 18 2022 according to your own timeline. NARA asked and they received. Trump gave NARA the classified documents. That is how NARA knew he had them and informed the DOJ.
That is how it got started. Trump did not hide the classified documents. He didn't bother taking any of them out of the boxes before he let NARA have them. He didn't ...[text shortened]... . Your own link proves you wrong you silly man. Trump out himself by being so cooperative with NARA.
Here we are in March 2025 and he is beating some sort of a drum from another era, and I think he really does think that we are supposed to make all of that past history our mantra of the day.
Could you ask him if he can put in a couple of paragraphs what he wants the endgame to be with all of his writings. Ask him to do so without mentioning Trump being in jail, or really anything about Trump since we are talking about the big picture of where our world should be. Like, after Trump?
@AverageJoe1 saidRefreshing. Right. We ALL saw on TV the FORCED removal of box after box of docs Trump DIDN'T want to let go. AND he hid more the FBI never found.
Thankyou. It is refreshing to read your post after reading Sunhouse post. I wish he could write like you do, we may actually glean huge stuff from his posts.
Here we are in March 2025 and he is beating some sort of a drum from another era, and I think he really does think that we are supposed to make all of that past history our mantra of the day.
Could you ask ...[text shortened]... ut Trump since we are talking about the big picture of where our world should be. Like, after Trump?
@AverageJoe1 saidYou can make a couple of guesses. What we USED to do with Traitors.
How do you think we should resolve this matter, Sonhouse?
Long prison time or worse.
But OF COURSE for you Maggites, Trump NEVER DID and NEVER WILL do anything illegal.
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@sonhouse saidI meant realistically.
You can make a couple of guesses. What we USED to do with Traitors.
Long prison time or worse.
But OF COURSE for you Maggites, Trump NEVER DID and NEVER WILL do anything illegal.
Darn it, I went along with your thinking last week about how bad stock investments are and got out. Now it is going up ! Da gum it Sonhouse. Now how do you expect me to follow your thinking on Trump!?!?
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@AverageJoe1 saidWhen you approve of every fuuking POS think Trump does there is no way I can even talk to you about just how many ways Trump is a literal traitor to this country, like right now AS WE SPEAK he CLAIMS those hundreds of men accused but not convicted of ANYTHING, just Trump saying they are terrorists and such, shipping them off to a prison in El Salvador where OUR tax dollars are paying that country six MILLION dollars a year.
I meant realistically.
Darn it, I went along with your thinking last week about how bad stock investments are and got out. Now it is going up ! Da gum it Sonhouse. Now how do you expect me to follow your thinking on Trump!?!?
AND defying court orders to bring them back where their legal status can be ruled on.
That is NOT what we elected Trump for.
And wholesale willy nilly destruction of government agencies without the tiniest bit of research as to what those people fired actually do in their jobs, just BLIND firing where a week before, a person gets a AA rating performance wise but then all of a sudden fired for poor performance? This is BLATENTLY illegal and he is defying court orders on that also, making himself ABOVE ALL THE OTHER BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT.
You really think we elected our traitor in chief to do THAT?
BESIDES all the top secret docs he still has stashed away which we have definite evidence of but because the crooked SCOTUS granted him total immunity nothing can ever be done about that either.
We elected him to do all that?
Trump is acting as judge, jury and executioner when in fact our democracy was founded on separation of powers or did you forget that part? Three EQUAL branches of government?
Show me how they are equal now when Trump blatantly defies court orders and has legislative in his back pocket, the spineless ballless Senate and house totally afraid of Trump and so whatever he says gets done, making both SCOTUS and legislative moot now and Trump LITERALLY KING TRUMP and he doesn't even have to ANNOUNCE the change.
@sonhouse saidI got this far in your post:
When you approve of every fuuking POS think Trump does there is no way I can even talk to you about just how many ways Trump is a literal traitor to this country, like right now AS WE SPEAK he CLAIMS those hundreds of men accused but not convicted of ANYTHING, just Trump saying they are terrorists and such, shipping them off to a prison in El Salvador where OUR tax dollars a ...[text shortened]... legislative moot now and Trump LITERALLY KING TRUMP and he doesn't even have to ANNOUNCE the change.
""When you approve of every fuuking POS think Trump does there is no way I can even talk to you about just how many ways Trump is a literal traitor to this country, like right now AS WE SPEAK he CLAIMS those hundreds of men accused but not convicted of ANYTHING, just Trump saying they are terrorists and such, shipping them off to a prison in El Salvador where OUR tax dollars are paying that country six MILLION dollars a year.""
The 'hundreds of men' you speak of are here illegally. AvJoe wants them the hell out of our country, they are trespassing. Who is going to get them the hell out of here? It will have to be a rugged individual!! Enter President Trump!!!! Are you aware they would be holed up somewhere underground plotting to do our citizens harm right now if they were not gone????? If Kamala were president?
Sonhouse: Tell us that you want them to be brought back. OR< tell us you want them to be gone. I am trying to school you in debate, this is an easy one.
@AverageJoe1 saidWho says they are here illegally? They've been charged with no crime, have not been the subject of any deportation proceedings and many Venezuelans remain in TPS status even if Trump's EO removing it for some is upheld by the courts.
I got this far in your post:
""When you approve of every fuuking POS think Trump does there is no way I can even talk to you about just how many ways Trump is a literal traitor to this country, like right now AS WE SPEAK he CLAIMS those hundreds of men accused but not convicted of ANYTHING, just Trump saying they are terrorists and such, shipping them off to a prison i ...[text shortened]... . OR< tell us you want them to be gone. I am trying to school you in debate, this is an easy one.
He is trying to send them to a foreign country to be jailed nonetheless and using taxpayer funds to do so. The chance that the courts will allow this are small, so the one committing illegal acts is him (again).
@wildgrass saidYou take this out of context. Does not compute. But please do not 'go off sonhouse' on us.
John McCain, John lewis, the Pope and Meryl Streep.
What do all these people have in common? They been ruthlessly criticized by Donald.
Trivia question... There's really only one person who has never, never been criticized by Trump, and never will be. Who is it?
@no1marauder saidFor sake of discussion, and I am getting old at the computer, we can figure that they came here illegally. At least I will. And if Tom h]Holman says they are, and he is the successor to our last Border Czar, then I believe what he does, i believe IN what he does.
Who says they are here illegally? They've been charged with no crime, have not been the subject of any deportation proceedings and many Venezuelans remain in TPS status even if Trump's EO removing it for some is upheld by the courts.
He is trying to send them to a foreign country to be jailed nonetheless and using taxpayer funds to do so. The chance that the courts will allow this are small, so the one committing illegal acts is him (again).
I loved seing them have their heads shaved, and notice how defeated they appeared. Illegal invaders, indeed.
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@AverageJoe1 saidWhat a gullible ass kisser you are.
For sake of discussion, and I am getting old at the computer, we can figure that they came here illegally. At least I will. And if Tom h]Holman says they are, and he is the successor to our last Border Czar, then I believe what he does, i believe IN what he does.
I loved seing them have their heads shaved, and notice how defeated they appeared. Illegal invaders, indeed.
"OOOOH, Your Majesty, I believe whatever you or your your appointed minions tell me; you don't have to offer any evidence or proof or nothing!"
@no1marauder saidYou and Wildgrass have no ammunition in today’s environment, it is as simple as that. So you nitpick anything you can find. Here is an article showing these men are illegal. Being obstinate can be boring. Elsalvadore president himself pins them as illegal. Whew.
What a gullible ass kisser you are.
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele said on Sunday that his country had received 238 Tren de Aragua members and an additional 23 members of the Salvadoran gang MS-13 from the US.
Bukele had agreed to jail members of these groups on behalf of the US in a meeting with Secretary of State Marco Rubio last month.
He said these deportees were in the custody of the Central American country’s Centre for the Confinement of Terrorism (CECOT) for a one-year period that could be extended.