Originally posted by PalynkaYou mean to tell me you've never been so angry you can just kill someone? Well, good for you, I guess. You must live in the perfect little world there. 🙂 Most people don't. 😞
Can you post the link again, stocken?
I honestly never wanted to strangle someone, are you sure it's as common as you seem to suggest?
Actually, I found a better article from the same site. Here:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-19950501-000028.html
"Where things get complicated, and where the trouble can start, is when thoughts aren't fleeting. For a variety of reasons, the brain seizes on a particular thought, holding it up for scrutiny and determining whether action is required. In some cases, however, this scrutinizing mechanism appears to go haywire. The partly processed thought somehow becomes permanent, or "intrusive," and can generate unpleasant emotional or physiological responses. In other words, researchers say, it's not the thought itself that is forbidden, but our reaction to it--a reaction that can involve intense feelings of shame, guilt, and even fear."
"Again, how strongly and negatively we react can depend on physiological or personality factors. But studies also suggest that past experiences, especially during upbringing, play an enormous role and that individuals from authoritarian backgrounds are far more likely to overreact to, and overcompensate for, forbidden thoughts. Research shows, for example, that persons raised in heavily religious households, where "evil" thoughts are regarded as evil deeds-in-waiting, are more likely than their non-religious counterparts to fixate on thoughts they feel are sinful or otherwise inappropriate. Their "God's will" world view may have produced a low sense of controllability and self-esteem, and thus a higher-than-average sense of vulnerability."
(I'd better not get banned now, because someone actually asked for the link. 😠 )
Originally posted by stockenI got it, edit it out if you want. Thanks.
You mean to tell me you've never been so angry you can just kill someone? Well, good for you, I guess. You must live in the perfect little world there. 🙂 Most people don't. 😞
Actually, I found a better article from the same site. Here:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-19950501-000028.html
"Where things get complicated, and where the tro ...[text shortened]... I'd better not get banned now, because someone actually asked for the link. 😠 )
Originally posted by Vladamir no1😞😠🙁
you think its ok to sexually fanatise about childre, those too ypoumg to defend themselves? You need some help .....councelling!!!!!!11
Some people just don't get it no matter how much I try to explain. I'm tired of this, and I won't keep this discussion going. It's obvious the subject was waaaaaay to controversial and sensitive for most of the crowd at hand.
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Originally posted by PalynkaActually, I think I'll leave it. And add this excerpt from the article which I feel perfectly supports my original post:
I got it, edit it out if you want. Thanks.
Most of us will never act out our forbidden impulses. Yet just the fact that we can think such thoughts may be so disturbing that we make Herculean efforts to repress them, to keep them secret. "I couldn't even tell my husband," recalls Beth, a gentle West Coast mother of three, after experiencing vivid thoughts about hurting her own children. "I spent a lot of time asking myself, 'What does this mean? Am I sick?'"
Originally posted by stockenI think that the issue here is that fantasies have a positive connotation. Yes, I've had dreams about cheating my girlfriend or manipulating others in devious ways and things like that (nothing violent, actually) but I would never call it fantasize, since these weren't pleasurable experiences but quite the opposite.
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Some people just don't get it no matter how much I try to explain. I'm tired of this, and I won't keep this discussion going. It's obvious the subject was waaaaaay to controversial and sensitive for most of the crowd at hand.
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I usually use the word fantasy with a positive connotation, don't know if it's the same in English but I thought so.
Originally posted by PalynkaGood point. According to Wikipedia, "a fantasy is a situation imagined by an individual or group, which does not correspond with reality but expresses certain desires or aims of its creator."
I think that the issue here is that fantasies have a positive connotation. Yes, I've had dreams about cheating my girlfriend or manipulating others in devious ways and things like that (nothing violent, actually) but I would never call it fantasize, since these weren't pleasurable experiences but quite the opposite.
I usually use the word fantasy with a positive connotation, don't know if it's the same in English but I thought so.
Originally posted by PalynkaOk, I'm gonna go ahead and post something that most likely will be moderated and have me banned again. Hopefully someone with brains will have a chance to read it before that.
I think that the issue here is that fantasies have a positive connotation.
I think you're actually right. Perhaps most people consider the word fantasy to mean something positive. Perhaps that's part of the definition of the word itself. But...
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...when I have rape fantasies, I actually enjoy them sexually (possibly while masturbating). In those fantasies my "victim" slowly begins to realise what an exceptional lover I am and it all turns around and becomes an act of completely consentual sex where both she and I are seriously enjoying ourselves in the process. This, of course, can never happen in real life because a rape is an act where the victim are so humiliated (and unprepared) that there's no way (s)he can actually begin to enjoy it. That's why it's a rape fantasy, and nothing I would even consider doing in real life.
* Looking left, looking right, waiting for the moderator tyranny of this self-moderated site to strike *
Originally posted by RagnorakI thought it might not be too clear but ill try to make the point better 🙂
I'd love to join you in a chorus of consent.
But I don't know what you just said.
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The clan could discuss whether it would be right or not to think about these things in a non-reality way, just as fantasies. Hope thats a bit clearer.
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Originally posted by stockenYou should had told us that you have porn-film-rape fantasies from the start. 🙂
Ok, I'm gonna go ahead and post something that most likely will be moderated and have me banned again. Hopefully someone with brains will have a chance to read it before that.
I think you're actually right. Perhaps most people consider the word fantasy to mean something positive. Perhaps that's part of the definition of the word itself. But...
(...and looking right, waiting for the moderator tyranny of this self-moderated site to strike *
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Originally posted by expressiveoutburstAccording to most psychologists it is. It's even encouraged as long as you're not getting totally obsessed with them. That's good enough for me.
The clan could discuss whether it would be right or not to think about these things in a non-reality way, just as fantasies. Hope thats a bit clearer.