Originally posted by StarValleyWyI tell you what... if that didn't happen, neither did this.
Pick it up at "Ouch". Prove that any of the rest happened. Don't beg the question. Prove it.🙂
I'll take the past as it is. I remember typing this... and I am now typing this. Now I am done.
Gonna hit Post button now.
Here I go.
Edit! That is all in the past now... Now I am editing the post after I typed it. Simple.
Originally posted by PhlabibitI grant you your "memory". It is a wonderful gift. "Where" is it in spacetime? Is it "in your head" because you just "did it"? Good. Prove it. To me. Where is it in space time? In reality that I can capture and measure?
I tell you what... if that didn't happen, neither did this.
I'll take the past as it is. I remember typing this... and I am now typing this. Now I am done.
Gonna hit Post button now.
Here I go.
[b]Edit! That is all i ...[text shortened]... past now... Now I am editing the post after I typed it. Simple.[/b]
How long has the site been weirded out? I have to quit and come back in from desktop to see every post.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyOr conversely, where is spacetime embedded in the aggregate of information?
I grant you your "memory". It is a wonderful gift. "Where" is it in spacetime? Is it "in your head" because you just "did it"? Good. Prove it. To me. Where is it in space time? In reality that I can capture and measure?
How long has the site been weirded out? I have to quit and come back in from desktop to see every post.
Originally posted by royalchickenRC! The crux! Well done.
Or conversely, where is spacetime embedded in the aggregate of information?
If spacetime... when/what/why/how?
Mind? Obvious. It is all we each can reach up and strobe with our fingers on forehead.
Quanta of information. Whose definition is only that of "packets" of information. Each stored. But where? When? Why? How?
What I mean is that it might not be sensible to ask where this information is. 'Where?' is answered by specifing a position in space and time. Possibly information contains spacetime and not vice-versa.
To make a mathematical analogy, most would say that the set of ordered pairs of real numbers represents 2-D space. Others would say that a visualizable 2-D plane is not the fundamental meaning of this set--2-D space is really just a list of ordered pairs. Space or information subordinate to the other.
Originally posted by royalchickenYou have hit upon the central theme of "string theory". In said... some entities "escape" from our hum-drum existence to different universes. Or dimensions. Nobody has yet explained to me the difference. But...
What I mean is that it might not be sensible to ask where this information is. 'Where?' is answered by specifing a position in space and time. Possibly information contains spacetime and not vice-versa.
To make a mathematical analogy, most would say that the set of ordered pairs of real numbers represents 2-D space. Others would say that a vi ...[text shortened]... -D space is really just a list of ordered pairs. Space or information subordinate to the other.
You profer the "ant on a sheet of paper".
To wander in 2d until...
Or 3d until
Or 4d until
Or 5 d until...
Current theory rests on about eleven d. In string theory. ie, TOE... The Theory Of Everything.
Correct me if I am wrong. "As existence is drawn from n dimensional spacetime, reality is affected only as the inverse function of perceptibility to law."
That Is my way of saying that beyond three dimensions... who knows?
Who's to say? Not me.
Originally posted by royalchickenWhy? Because I am feeling very doubtfull. I no longer know "good" and "evil". I don't know if I even care if there is a difference. Anyway.
Why?
Good to see you Mike.
I am going to Wyoming. Going to get snowed in in the cabin. Going out each night for a month and look at the stars. Going to be all right.
See you all later. ...
RC... Maybe harrass the dike guy for me a little. I know he will be pissed that he can't rant at me in person. Mike
Originally posted by StarValleyWyGood luck and maybe check your email every now and then.
Why? Because I am feeling very doubtfull. I no longer know "good" and "evil". I don't know if I even care if there is a difference. Anyway.
I am going to Wyoming. Going to get snowed in in the cabin. Going out each night for a month and look at the stars. Going to be all right.
See you all later. ...
RC... Maybe harrass the dike guy for me a little. I know he will be pissed that he can't rant at me in person. Mike
Best Wishes and Solid Thoughts,
Mark
Originally posted by StarValleyWyWe talked about something like this in Physics......we got on the subject of dark matter and energy....crazy stuff. If I wasn't so obsessed with computers and programming I think I would want to major in AstroPhysics, or physics or Astronomy, or something like that....I don't know....😲
Mysteries are good for the soul. Here is one. Why is only .5 percent of the total matter in our universe visible, touchable, measurable, barrionic matter?
Why is the black hole at the center of EVERY OBSERVED GALAXY exactly .5 Percent of the mass of the central mass of that galaxy?
Why is the halo matter in all galaxies ORBITING the central mass? ...[text shortened]... is all imagination. Nobody can ever 'prove' that an event from the 'past' took place. Sorry.
SVW, good to see you and I'm sorry I missed your brief return. I might say that you're bordering on discussing religion again. Of course, your decision not to do so was made and posted in the past so I suppose in the context of this thread it wouldn't be worth my saying. May God bless you, whether you like it or not 😉 and hopefully I'll catch you in a month . . .
StarValleyWhy, you're back and allready gone ..... what a shame ...
Anyway .... if you wanna take a look into the past, why don't you take a look at the stars with that ... uuuh ... inversed microscope ... what's that thingy called .... and you can see into the past. You can observ events that happened seconds ago, but also events that happened millions of years ago .... but I'm sure you'll find a reason to state that this does not count ... uh ?
Yours truly,
Ivan The Terrible