Originally posted by StarValleyWySorry to hear about your freind, SVW. Biggest sympathies from The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy clan.:'(
Been a weird month. I have been helping a friend die from pancreatic cancer. Not the best of things to do, but certainly as important as what passes itself off as life in day to day. I am a little drained, but generally in good spirits. What's happening in the RHP community? Anything I should be up in arms about?
Originally posted by royalchicken
Uhm, we were both having a laguh, IvanH.
I wasn't serious, and there was no crux.
Sure, and I'm still laughing ..... it wasn't serious ..... looool 😵
and it's even funnier that you're telling me that there was no crux ... looool
😵
"People don't understand my jokes" Royalchicken
loooool .... good going ... Royal Poultry Esquire ... 😵
Originally posted by ivanhoeLol. Lool. Loool. Loooooo. Loooooooooool. Loooooooooooooooooooooool.
Sure, and I'm still laughing ..... it wasn't serious ..... looool 😵
and it's even funnier that you're telling me that there was no crux ... looool
😵
"People don't understand my jokes" Royalchicken
loooool .... good going ... Royal Poultry Esquire ... 😵
What comes next?
Prove the past . Is this about real proof or just about whether time really exists?? FIRST THERE IS A BEGINNING AND AN END . SO ALL IN BETWEEN MUST BE THE PRESENT . SIMPLE LOGIC WOULD PROVE A PAST TO YOU . YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER EXISTED CORRECT. DID YOU EXIST THEN?? NO. THAT TIME HAD TO BE EITHER PAST,, PRESENT OR FUTURE . SINCE YOU EXIST TO ASK THE QUESTION NOW ,WE CAN RULE OUT THE FUTURE. THAT LEAVES THE PAST AND THE PRESENT. NOW IF YOU ASSUME ALL TIME IS THE PRESENT ,THEN YOU HAVE JUST VANGUISHED THE PAST AND THE FUTURE . IF YOU DO THAT ,THEN YOU HAVE NO FUTURE --LOL -BBG
Originally posted by bluebabygirl
Prove the past . Is this about real proof or just about whether time really exists?? FIRST THERE IS A BEGINNING AND AN END . SO ALL IN BETWEEN MUST BE THE PRESENT . SIMPLE LOGIC WOULD PROVE A PAST TO YOU . YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER EXISTED CORRECT. DID YOU EXIST THEN?? NO. THAT TIME HAD TO BE EITHER PAST,, PRESENT OR FUTURE . SINCE YOU EXIST TO ASK THE QU ...[text shortened]... VE JUST VANGUISHED THE PAST AND THE FUTURE . IF YOU DO THAT ,THEN YOU HAVE NO FUTURE --LOL -BBG
I know óne thing ... it's past my bedtime 😵
nighty night ... 😴
Originally posted by bluebabygirlYou're short by 46 'o's.
Prove the past . Is this about real proof or just about whether time really exists?? FIRST THERE IS A BEGINNING AND AN END . SO ALL IN BETWEEN MUST BE THE PRESENT . SIMPLE LOGIC WOULD PROVE A PAST TO YOU . YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER EXISTED CORRECT. DID YOU EXIST THEN?? NO. THAT TIME HAD TO BE EITHER PAST,, PRESENT OR FUTURE . SINCE YOU EXIST TO ASK THE QU ...[text shortened]... VE JUST VANGUISHED THE PAST AND THE FUTURE . IF YOU DO THAT ,THEN YOU HAVE NO FUTURE --LOL -BBG
About the space time idea . Well whenever I have the time to think I get too spaced out . Whenever I have the space to contemplate ,my timing is just a little bit off. However if I ever get the space and the time together ,I'll draw you guys a picture ..Got my crayons ready as we speak!! -BBG
Originally posted by ivanhoeNot at all. "Seeing" it, and "knowing" it is a far cry from "Proving" it. For example... you observe a 10 billion year old quasar in your telescope. The information enters your eye and is recorded in your mind. Can you prove that this "information" is "absolutely" real? All you have is what was intercepted by your eye and stored in your brain. You say that it occured in the "past". Ok. Prove it. The only thing that affected you were photons that arrived at some point known as "now" and are currently in your mind as being "real". Whatever that turns out to be. Prove that the photons are something that proves what you say is the "past". For that matter... (pardon the pun) prove that the light that arrived at your eye is anything at all. It is gone. Not? All you have is a "mind full of influences... recorded?" but maybe not. Where is it stored? What is stored? Can you show me a sample of "It"? The stuff you stored?
StarValleyWhy, you're back and allready gone ..... what a shame ...
Anyway .... if you wanna take a look into the past, why don't you take a look at the stars with that ... uuuh ... inversed microscope ... what's that thingy called .... and you can see into the past. You can observ events that happened seconds ago, but also events that happened ...[text shortened]... find a reason to state that this does not count ... uh ?
Yours truly,
Ivan The Terrible
Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Not at all. "Seeing" it, and "knowing" it is a far cry from "Proving" it. For example... you observe a 10 billion year old quasar in your telescope. The information enters your eye and is recorded in your mind. Can you prove that this "information" is "absolutely" real? All you have is what was intercepted by your eye and stored in your brain. ...[text shortened]... Where is it stored? What is stored? Can you show me a sample of "It"? The stuff you stored?
Your question boils down to the question: "Is reality real or is it an illusion or a dream or .... something else ... a product of our minds ?
It is an absolute miracle that something exists at all and it is equally mindboggling trying to imagine that nothing would exist, nothing at all, not even time and space ......
Originally posted by ivanhoeReality is a bitch. The explanation for "Expansion" following the big bad bang... matches exactly that a switch is thrown and a 3-D version of the universe springs into being. Why not just believe that the switch was indeed thrown? That gives all you "God" guys a neat way of saying that science is wrong again. So what is wrong with it? Other than it is about as easy to swallow as god? Is all this, in any way provable ... OUTSIDE THE MIND? Are the billions of nows that we store as "past" real? If so why can't we touch, taste, feel, or smell them? We See them. Right? As you said. Look into the 'past' with a telescope. Is seeing believing?
Your question boils down to the question: "Is reality real or is it an illusion or a dream or .... something else ... a product of our minds ?
It is an absolute miracle that something exists at all and it is equally mindboggling trying to imagine that nothing would exist, nothing at all, not even time and space ......
Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Reality is a bitch. The explanation for "Expansion" following the big bad bang... matches exactly that a switch is thrown and a 3-D version of the universe springs into being. Why not just believe that the switch was indeed thrown? That gives all you "God" guys a neat way of saying that science is wrong again. So what is wrong with it? Other than i ...[text shortened]... We See them. Right? As you said. Look into the 'past' with a telescope. Is seeing believing?
Not all "God" guys say that science is wrong, only stupid "God" guys say such things. Interesting to read is "Fides et Ratio", an encyclic that deals with just this matter.
Past, present and future are concepts in our daily life and these concepts work well. It is a way of understanding the world we live in. You could say:They serve us well, therefore they are real ... when we take a look into the very big, astronomy, or into the very small, theoretical physics, our concepts become an obstacle to understand what is happening. Therefore we have to adjust our concepts. "Time" becomes very problematic. In the new concepts time, as a quality of a particle, can be observed as running backwards, but is it really "running backwards". Is negative time something that is "running backwards". We can describe reality on these levels with mathematical equasions, but we are not able to understand things with our daily concepts. However these daily concepts work for us quite well, therefore they exist ..... and they refer to something we call reality.