Originally posted by Grampy BobbyEvery teacher throughout history may disagree with you GB...otherwise, what was the point?
A Fool's Mission
Any individual or collecective crusade bent on changing the minds, behavior, values, beliefs or personalities of other people. Only person
any of us can change is ourselves. That process is still recognized as growing up and attaining emotional, intellectual and spiritual maturity.
Those who reject this stern principle ar ...[text shortened]... pinning their wheels while riding around the countryside flailing at scary windmills.
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Originally posted by uzlessFact that whole populations have been led away into captivity and suffered extended periods of deprivation, hardship and bondage does
Every teacher throughout history may disagree with you GB...otherwise, what was the point?
not in the least set aside or change the fundamental principle: 'A person convinced against his (or her) will is of the same opinion still'.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo says one side of the coin....what does the other side of the coin say?
Fact that whole populations have been led away into captivity and suffered extended periods of deprivation, hardship and bondage does
not in the least set aside or change the fundamental principle: 'A person convinced against his (or her) will is of the same opinion still'.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI cant help but recall you being christian bobby.
A Fool's Mission
Any individual or collecective crusade bent on changing the minds, behavior, values, beliefs or personalities of other people. Only person
any of us can change is ourselves. That process is still recognized as growing up and attaining emotional, intellectual and spiritual maturity.
Those who reject this stern principle ar ...[text shortened]... pinning their wheels while riding around the countryside flailing at scary windmills.
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This statement seems to completely go against all which they stand for.
Originally posted by MrHandchristianity, typically being the act of following christ. would involve making disciples, either the mormon/jehovahs witness way, or perhaps the missionary way, or perhaps the way of the crusades, all factions of christianity have there own method of conversion. Unless you have your own make shift christianity beliefs, and in that case your not really christian.
How is it unchristian? You mean un-evangelical?
I don't see it as unchristian.
Originally posted by pawnfondlerWell, I'm not a devout Christian, nor very scholarly when it comes to the gospel, but I don't view it as important to convert anyone, nor do I ever have it as an aim. Jesus was quite clear in several spots though saying that the highest law is to love God and only slightly less important is to love your brother (meaning all other people).
christianity, typically being the act of following christ. would involve making disciples, either the mormon/jehovahs witness way, or perhaps the missionary way, or perhaps the way of the crusades, all factions of christianity have there own method of conversion. Unless you have your own make shift christianity beliefs, and in that case your not really christian.
Originally posted by uzlessI think GB is simply enunciating a basic tenet of life, namely that although a thousand people tell me the same important truth, nevertheless, unless and until I tell myself that same fact, it will not be a truth to me, regardless of it's importance. In other words, nobody can take the step from ignorance to knowledge for me, I must be the one to grasp it for myself, thereby enabling the change.
Every teacher throughout history may disagree with you GB...otherwise, what was the point?
Originally posted by muppymanPrecisely, muppy, along with the principle of respecting volition and accepting the fact that many if not most are likely to reject what you
I think GB is simply enunciating a basic tenet of life, namely that although a thousand people tell me the same important truth, nevertheless, unless and until I tell myself that same fact, it will not be a truth to me, regardless of it's importance. In other words, nobody can take the step from ignorance to knowledge for me, I must be the one to grasp it for myself, thereby enabling the change.
may have to say on any given day (or thread). In none of its sixty six books does the Bible presume to encourage, much less advocate
intrusion upon another human being's free will. And yet fools rush in where angels fear to tread... full of good intentions and ignorance.