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  1. Standard memberFMF
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    30 Oct '16 23:081 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I propose that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.

    Discuss.
    I cannot make any comment on the bullies I encountered when I was at school without making questionable references to the Italian ethnicity of the pupils involved, and I would most certainly not venture anywhere near raising - or even alluding to - such a topic and such an ethnic angle, not even now, all these years later.

    edit: several derogatory words for people of Italian heritage removed.
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    30 Oct '16 23:38
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I propose that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.

    Discuss.
    Are you saying, to be specific, that you've identified individuals posting in this website as having been victims of bullying in their developmental years, and are now reacting against others posting here that they perceive to be acting like those that bullied them in their youth, but are now "hiding" behind a mask of aninimity like little cowards?

    I think you'd have a really hard time quantifying that.

    Personally, I think that the few dozen or so individuals posting here are really extraordinarily gifted and intelligent people just too stupid to have a civil, open minded and objective discussion. 😛

    And that's a load of bs too. 😉
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    30 Oct '16 23:41
    Originally posted by FMF
    I cannot make any comment on the bullies I encountered when I was at school without making questionable references to the Italian ethnicity of the pupils involved, and I would most certainly not venture anywhere near raising - or even alluding to - such a topic and such an ethnic angle, not even now, all these years later.

    edit: several derogatory words for people of Italian heritage removed.
    Be careful. The Cosa Nostra is watching you! 😉
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    30 Oct '16 23:51
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I propose that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.

    Discuss.
    I remember flaming and trolling etc from before 2002 so yeah. Usenet.
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    30 Oct '16 23:53
    Originally posted by FMF
    I have little doubt that mental illness is the main reason she's now dead and that the circumstances are simply the circumstances ~ a context, a frame of reference, and a predicament that in most cases does not lead to a loss of life. How many women around the world committed suicide on the same day as she did without any circumstances surrounding their death th ...[text shortened]... will. We should not underestimate the key role that mental health plays in almost all suicides.
    You're an analyst too?

    Don't you know that stress can lead to emotional and mental disorders resulting in depression?

    You should look into the statistics related to what happens to women in the sex-trade and pornography industry. It ain't pretty.
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    30 Oct '16 23:57
    Originally posted by josephw
    You're an analyst too?
    No. And I have not claimed to be. If there is something specific about what I contributed that you think is in error, just say so. If I were indeed "an analyst", I most likely would have said so.
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    31 Oct '16 00:23
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I propose that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.

    Discuss.
    When I look at the way the children of immigrants are made to feel somehow unwelcome in the country of their birth, I'm surprised that more of them don't "hide out and kick back at the culture that has kicked them".

    With regard to bullied people generally, I'm not sure that the bullying I see on the internet is being done by these people, more the other, they become victims on the internet as well. I see internet bullies as either people who think they're better than other people think they are, or people who think anyone other than themselves must be somehow inferior. Excessively self-imaged rather than poorly self-imaged.
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    31 Oct '16 09:012 edits
    Originally posted by FMF
    I have little doubt that mental illness is the main reason she's now dead and that the circumstances are simply the circumstances ~ a context, a frame of reference, and a predicament that in most cases does not lead to a loss of life. How many women around the world committed suicide on the same day as she did without any circumstances surrounding their death th ...[text shortened]... will. We should not underestimate the key role that mental health plays in almost all suicides.
    And I have little doubt that you have NOT researched the circumstances and are once again pleading from a position of ignorance. How many of these women that you claim suffer the same have their words turned into a meme, quoted in the national press? Practically nil I would reckon. How many incur large legal fees in an attempt to be forgotten? How many are forced to change their names and move city in an attempt to escape attention?

    I reject your assumptions, your dismissive stance and assertions of mental illness. All one has to do is ask you for evidence and once again your text resembles some ragged vestige fluttering on a barb wired fence.
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    31 Oct '16 09:16
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I came upon it by chance I think. I had never heard of the lady. Its pretty sad really.
    I find that when I'm surfing the net I never happen to come across stories about revenge porn suicides.
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    31 Oct '16 09:272 edits
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I find that when I'm surfing the net I never happen to come across stories about revenge porn suicides.
    Then perhaps you should gravitate away from whatever sites you visit. The Guardian and other 'quality', media sources has numerous articles dealing with the subject.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/16/italy-grapples-with-suicide-of-woman-taunted-over-online-sex-video

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/13/tiziana-cantone-trail-justice-woman-killed-herself-sex-tape-italy

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/jul/25/victims-of-revenge-porn-turn-to-students-for-legal-advice

    Now the question that surfaces is why the websites that you visit have failed to report these rather disturbing incidents. You do read news sources, right?
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    31 Oct '16 09:52
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Then perhaps you should gravitate away...
    It's only possible to gravitate towards something, not gravitate away from something.
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    31 Oct '16 09:551 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Then perhaps you should gravitate away from whatever sites you visit. The Guardian and other 'quality', media sources has numerous articles dealing with the subject.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/16/italy-grapples-with-suicide-of-woman-taunted-over-online-sex-video

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/13/tiziana-cantone-trai ...[text shortened]... visit have failed to report these rather disturbing incidents. You do read news sources, right?
    I'm not at all interested in your links about pornography robbie; this thread is about the premise that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.
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    31 Oct '16 10:201 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I'm not at all interested in your links about pornography robbie; this thread is about the premise that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.
    These links are not about pornography per se, they are about people using pornography as a tool of revenge and the adverse effect that this has on the victims. Once again the question remains unanswered, how you could fail to recognise the problem. You claim that you surf the internet, then we are under duress to ascertain, why you remain ignorant of this trend? What news sources do you read? Do you read anything or are you content simply to watch videos and look at pictures? how are we to explain your ignorance divegeester?

    Clearly this example demonstrates that the internet far from providing a haven for those who have been bullied is a catalyst itself for bullying as the references that I provided and which you refused to acknowledge clearly demonstrate.
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    31 Oct '16 10:24
    Originally posted by divegeester
    It's only possible to gravitate towards something, not gravitate away from something.
    Then I suggest that you gravitate towards something more educational than you are viewing at present.
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    31 Oct '16 11:241 edit
    Originally posted by The Gravedigger
    Wish you didn't have a life so I could bury you.
    I'm being bullied on the interweb.
    Digger got 3 thumbs up so far.
    Sob.
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