A question for my fellow Europeans.

Is anyone else watching the developments in the Ukraine and considering stocking up on army long life rations? If Georgia has taught us anything, the Russians are prepared to throw out "the integrity of international borders" in order to protect what it sees as "Ethnic Russians". The US and NATO standing with their arms crossed staring sternly is not going to cut it this time, and i see a dark cloud in the distance...is it just me?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26366700

Originally posted by huckleberryhound
Is anyone else watching the developments in the Ukraine and considering stocking up on army long life rations? If Georgia has taught us anything, the Russians are prepared to throw out "the integrity of international borders" in order to protect what it sees as "Ethnic Russians". The US and NATO standing with their arms crossed staring sternly is not going to cut it this time, and i see a dark cloud in the distance...is it just me?

I cant fight I have a doctors note

Originally posted by huckleberryhound
Is anyone else watching the developments in the Ukraine and considering stocking up on army long life rations? If Georgia has taught us anything, the Russians are prepared to throw out "the integrity of international borders" in order to protect what it sees as "Ethnic Russians". The US and NATO standing with their arms crossed staring sternly is no ...[text shortened]... e a dark cloud in the distance...is it just me?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26366700

Indeed the whole concept of terroritorial integrity" is flawed. But Putin will not easily lead a war in the vicinity of the NATO. And Ukraine feels much more "European" than Georgia does.

Originally posted by Ponderable
Indeed the whole concept of terroritorial integrity" is flawed. But Putin will not easily lead a war in the vicinity of the NATO. And Ukraine feels much more "European" than Georgia does.

Not easy for any of us.

It is a troublesome situation at the least. Russia will not easily hand over its control over the only warm water naval base it has.

the UK prime minister has said we have an open cheque book to help the Ukraine,it annoys me because 1/3 rd of southern England and a large part of wales is under 3 feet of water,aid should be directed to our own countrymen before giving it away in Aid to any country.

Originally posted by redbarons
the UK prime minister has said we have an open cheque book to help the Ukraine,it annoys me because 1/3 rd of southern England and a large part of wales is under 3 feet of water,aid should be directed to our own countrymen before giving it away in Aid to any country.

The south of England floods every year, blame the local councils for building on land that should have been left as marsh land. N. Ireland has got a hell of a lot of rain as well, where are our floods? The south of Ireland as well, probably more there than here, where are their floods?

Should be the local councils paying for it not the tax payers in the rest of the country.

I don't mind paying to help Ukraine get closer to Europe but why should we have to pay for greedy local councils in southern England?

Originally posted by huckleberryhound
Is anyone else watching the developments in the Ukraine and considering stocking up on army long life rations? If Georgia has taught us anything, the Russians are prepared to throw out "the integrity of international borders" in order to protect what it sees as "Ethnic Russians". The US and NATO standing with their arms crossed staring sternly is no ...[text shortened]... e a dark cloud in the distance...is it just me?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26366700

The situation has worsened considerable since the OP posted his concerns.

Is anybody reminded of June 1914?

Originally posted by Trev33
The south of England floods every year, blame the local councils for building on land that should have been left as marsh land. N. Ireland has got a hell of a lot of rain as well, where are our floods? The south of Ireland as well, probably more there than here, where are their floods?

Should be the local councils paying for it not the tax payers in the re ...[text shortened]... et closer to Europe but why should we have to pay for greedy local councils in southern England?

its not the councils that are at fault Cameron cut then budget on river defences and the environment agency stopped paying the farmers to dredge the rivers 2 years ago.

I expect Ukraine as we know it and as it tried to be is dead in the water. Partition is a likely outcome.

Originally posted by Trev33

I don't mind paying to help Ukraine get closer to Europe but why should we have to pay for greedy local councils in southern England?

Who's "we" in your scenario?