Originally posted by YIAMSOMEBODYYou are dealing with three sets of criteria.
If it wasn't illegal during the period he took them, how is that cheating? That boggles my mind......
The first set says there was no specific rule against steroids when he "allegedly" injected them. Technically ---no foul
The second set says it was illegal to purchase them under the FDA guidelines, unless prescribed by a physician. Since he had no perscription---major foul, but not technically in baseball, just US Constitutional law.
The third set is the moral majority that includes the writers & media(who of course never break any laws), the HOF committee, the fans, and the commissioner's office who has to answer for the problem. They pronounce guilt in baseball by association with guilt against the US government and their sense of "fair play". In their eyes----major and unforgivable foul.
Just wondering why they don't throw the book at them for DWI convictions, or DUI or drunk and disorderly convictions? They have selectively enforced income tax evasion. They have not prosecuted spousal abuse or child abuse. They haven't gone after those who have extramarital affairs, entertaining with hookers or call girls. They have selectively enforced ties to gambling institutions or known bookmakers. Seems a bit of a double standard if you ask me.
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Originally posted by YIAMSOMEBODYDo your homework.
If it wasn't illegal during the period he took them, how is that cheating? That boggles my mind......
Though major league players were not tested for anabolic steroids until 2003, the use of steroids for performance enhancement has been implicitly banned by baseball since 1971 and expressly banned since '91.
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1151761/index.htm
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Why didn't he consult anyone how to use the drugs?
He knew he was cheating. He claims it a stupid mistake, he knew exactly what he was doing though he never just admitted he cheated.
That's what he did. Cheat.
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Originally posted by PhlabibitIt's been discussed here before, but this statement from the article is incorrect:
Do your homework.
Though major league players were not tested for anabolic steroids until 2003, the use of steroids for performance enhancement has been implicitly banned by baseball since 1971 and expressly banned since '91.
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1151761/index.htm
--------------------------------- t he was doing though he never just admitted he cheated.
That's what he did. Cheat.
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the use of steroids for performance enhancement has been implicitly banned by baseball since 1971 and expressly banned since '91.
Vincent's memo never mentioned or claimed that steroid use could "enhance performance". In fact, it was a memo mostly concerned with recreational drugs (esp. cocaine) and claimed illegal drugs would impair performance.
EDIT: From the 2nd paragraph of the Introduction to the Memo:
"Illegal drug use can cause injuries on the field, diminished job performance........."
http://www.steroidsinbaseball.net/assets/memo.pdf
Originally posted by no1marauderA-roid claimed this drug was legal in the Dominican Republic. It has been found it was illegal with or without a doctor's prescription.
It's been discussed here before, but this statement from the article is incorrect:
the use of steroids for [b]performance enhancement has been implicitly banned by baseball since 1971 and expressly banned since '91.
Vincent's memo never mentioned or claimed that steroid use could "enhance performance". In fact, it was a memo ...[text shortened]... nished job performance[/b]........."
http://www.steroidsinbaseball.net/assets/memo.pdf[/b]
The cousin that provided him also roomed with a trainer that MLB decided to ban from all club houses.
He knew he was cheating, though he just won't admit that. He's making excuses filled with lies and inconsistencies.
What do you care anyway, are you not a REDS fan now?~
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Originally posted by PhlabibitI don't care except that this steroid hysteria fueled by sports writers jealous of the money guys who actually play sports make could hurt the game in the long run. Seriously, what possible difference does it make if Player X used steroids 5-7 years ago? There's been testing in place since 2003; why are we revisiting this ancient history?
A-roid claimed this drug was legal in the Dominican Republic. It has been found it was illegal with or without a doctor's prescription.
The cousin that provided him also roomed with a trainer that MLB decided to ban from all club houses.
He knew he was cheating, though he just won't admit that. He's making excuses filled with lies and inconsistencies.
What do you care anyway, are you not a REDS fan now?~
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The other post is just to correct the misstatements made over and over and over again that the 1991 memo by Vincent banned steroids because they were adjudged to be performance enhancing. That is simply false as the quoted text from the Memo makes clear.