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Originally posted by RagnorakGreat post! keep them comming😀
He tells more truths than stations like FOX. Are u saying that the Bushes aren't/weren't working for Carlyle? Are u saying that Cheney didn't work for Halliburton?
Look, as a retired B52 pilot, of course u don't want to believe th ...[text shortened]... t the reasons were BS.
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I don't have a "blind faith" and think that those that do are lying. People can't NOT know what is going on. Murders, rapes, burgleries - everything happens daily in the small city that I live in.
Just think about if we looked at how many crimes happen in the US as a whole.
Then we look internationally.
I know the world is corrupted right now.
Originally posted by Never MissedI'm sure when you watch it your views wil be re-enforced. Moore is unconvincing, He had cut the movie to twist the facts, for example he makes no mentiom of the UK's milatary support and he unnecessarily makes Bush out to be a bumbling fool.
Fine. I will watch the flick. I don't know when, but I will sometime.
I have always been against the war, I still do not know why the illegal war was conducted. There was no evidence of WMD, Saddam was not a threat to the wider world, there were no links to al qieda or global terrorism. Most people did not need Mr Moore to tell them this.
But I reckon Moore's film harmed the Democrats and harmed the anti Bush camp. You win arguements with reasoned logic and not by choosing your statistics very selectively and by being condesending and rude about your president.
Originally posted by StarrmanDude,
Let's keep it nice people, if you wanna hash it out, start a thread in debates. Peace and love to all 🙂
By the way if anyone in the UK wants to watch something really disturbing, Gunther Von Haagen-Dazs is dissecting a testicle on Channel 4 now....
I thought you said keep it nice? Hearing about a testicle being dissected is never nice 😲
Originally posted by invigorateBest post in this thread. Rec coming your way!
I'm sure when you watch it your views wil be re-enforced. Moore is unconvincing, He had cut the movie to twist the facts, for example he makes no mentiom of the UK's milatary support and he unnecessarily makes Bush out to be a bumbling fool.
I have always been against the war, I still do not know why the illegal war was conducted. There was no evide ...[text shortened]... ng your statistics very selectively and by being condesending and rude about your president.
Originally posted by RagnorakI sleep good at night, Rag, because if I hadn't done my job, a lot of cruddy third world gutterslugs would have been doing the same to America, and I helped prevent that. What have you done with your life?
He tells more truths than stations like FOX. Are u saying that the Bushes aren't/weren't working for Carlyle? Are u saying that Cheney didn't work for Halliburton?
Look, as a retired B52 pilot, of course u don't want to believe that u have murdered people for some rich fat cats. If I were u, I wouldn't want to believe that my life had been a comp ...[text shortened]... e that, and then found out that the reasons were BS.
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Originally posted by Never MissedSo, you didn't watch the movie, but you watched someone's spin
Well, you may be right. I have a harsh outlook on the movie made by that scumbag. I really don't like that man though. Even if he came out with the next LoTR type [popular and very good] movie, I probably still wouldn't see it (just because I disagree with the man and have no need in supporting him). My money is hard earned and he makes his by bashing ...[text shortened]... h I attend are constantly praying for our soldiers and veterans. Do you actually go to a church?
about the movie and, on that basis, passed judgement on it?
Do you always encourage people to base their opinions about a
movie or book on the basis of another person's commentary?
Would you recommend that someone read the 'Atheist's Handbook
to the Bible' before reading the Bible?
Nemesio
Originally posted by invigorateI think this is an important point, in its own way.
I'm sure when you watch it your views wil be re-enforced. Moore is unconvincing, He had cut the movie to twist the facts, for example he makes no mentiom of the UK's milatary support and he unnecessarily makes Bush out to be a bumbling fool.
I have always been against the war, I still do not know why the illegal war was conducted. There was no evide ...[text shortened]... ng your statistics very selectively and by being condesending and rude about your president.
I don't think that Moore is 'unconvincing,' but that
he is selective. I think, that if he chose to use
Kerry as his target, or Dean, Santorum, Kennedy,
or any other politician at the highest level, you would
find a roughly equal amount of personal and professional
misconduct. It's practically part of the business of
being in politics.
Moore had an axe to grind, that is for sure; that doesn't
make him wrong, only biased.
I don't agree, though, that it harmed the Democrats.
Sensational reporting, like Moore's, has always, historically
carried more weight with the public. 'Reasoned logic' is
boring, 'statistics' are boring, and being polite gets you
nowhere (negative ads have the greatest impact, they
tell me).
Nemesio
Originally posted by StarrmanExtreme errors in judgement!? What an understatement! The guy told all Americans that Sudan could strike within 15 minutes with nuclear missles!!! He said, "We must defend ourselves." What a complete LIAR!
I'm not looking for a fight Never Missed, you have a right to your opinion I was just encouraging you to watch the film before you criticise it. I find it hard to understand the reasons why you would believe a politician over a film maker, at the very least Bush is responsible for extreme errors in judgement, but like I say, you have your view point and t ...[text shortened]... before you decide which side you stand on, I would advise everyone and anyone to do this 🙂
I will share something with the group... when I married many years ago my wife and I had some serious marital problems. The reason we had problems is because she was molested by a minister when she was only 9 yrs-old. So, here's what happened: Her mother called the police and they arrested the pervert. THEN, while he was out on bond, all the church people got together and drove over to her mother's house. They told her, "You are doing wrong! You should not pursue these charges. HE is a man of the cloth! HE is GOD'S messinger!
Yeah, these "Christians" were protecting a child molestor. Well, my wife's mother took the pedaphile to court and with the kid's testamony, the doctor's testamony, and her bloodied pannies, the judge had to admit that this minister did something wrong.
So, the judge said, "You are not fit to represent the church." and he told him he could no longer be a minister... THAT WAS IT! That's ALL the punishment the pervert got! So the child molestor moved to another town 30 miles away and took up being a minister there.
So why am I bringing this up? Cause I have to tell you... there is no evil equal to the evil of blind, ignorant people who allow their faith to interfere with their ability to use their brain.