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Apparently having your own ideas is bad now... 😕 😕 😕

http://offthegridnews.com/2010/10/08/is-free-thinking-a-mental-illness/

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Originally posted by adam warlock
Apparently having your own ideas is bad now... 😕 😕 😕

http://offthegridnews.com/2010/10/08/is-free-thinking-a-mental-illness/
The manual identifies a new mental illness called “oppositional defiant disorder” or ODD. Defined as an “ongoing pattern of disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior,” symptoms include questioning authority, negativity, defiance, argumentativeness, and being easily annoyed.

And there are treatments available.


You must conform. Resistance is futile.

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Originally posted by adam warlock
Apparently having your own ideas is bad now... 😕 😕 😕

http://offthegridnews.com/2010/10/08/is-free-thinking-a-mental-illness/
Well, I guess it all depends on how much of a "free-thinker" you are. Purely symptom-based medicine is usually trying to draw lines in a continuum so I'm guessing only extreme cases (which might lead to serious inability to socialize) will be diagnosed as disorders.

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Originally posted by adam warlock
Apparently having your own ideas is bad now... 😕 😕 😕

http://offthegridnews.com/2010/10/08/is-free-thinking-a-mental-illness/
That's an annoying article.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
That's an annoying article.
I agree. I was being tongue-in-cheek with my last post, but the author of that article is implying that diagnosing these kinds of disorders is a bad thing. It is this diagnosis which helps people to conduct their lives better and do better in society.

As Palynka pointed out. When things are taken to the extreme where it effects our everyday lives, it becomes a problem. Something that we do on a regular basis which we enjoy and doesn't cause any harm should be fine. When it becomes a habit, and leading to obsession, then that can be harmful.

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Originally posted by lausey
I agree. I was being tongue-in-cheek with my last post, but the author of that article is implying that diagnosing these kinds of disorders is a bad thing. It is this diagnosis which helps people to conduct their lives better and do better in society.

As Palynka pointed out. When things are taken to the extreme where it effects our everyday lives, it becom ...[text shortened]... rm should be fine. When it becomes a habit, and leading to obsession, then that can be harmful.
Well... yeah. In theory. But we all know that what is often taken to extremes in these cases is not cynicism and arrogance (and believe me, I know, I'm candidate world champion at both), but politically correct abuse of the pseudo-scientific parts of psychiatry.
It's much like ADHD. There are whole oceans of difference between someone with real ADHD, and the majority of simply badly raised children these days whose lazy, good-for-nothing parents get them put on Ritalin just to be shot of the effort of caring for their spawn. In the mean time, those children who really do have a serious ADHD problem, and they do exist, can barely get the treatment they need due to the strain put on the system by useless middle-class parents.
I can already see how these new diagnoses will be used in very similar ways. Can't you?

Richard

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Originally posted by Shallow Blue
Well... yeah. In theory. But we all know that what is often taken to extremes in these cases is not cynicism and arrogance (and believe me, I know, I'm candidate world champion at both), but politically correct abuse of the pseudo-scientific parts of psychiatry.
It's much like ADHD. There are whole oceans of difference between someone with real ADHD, ...[text shortened]... already see how these new diagnoses will be used in very similar ways. Can't you?

Richard
True that new diagnoses will be used in very similar ways, but all the more reason why we should diagnose properly. It is the pseudo-science that we should strive to eliminate.

People with real ADHD do need to be helped, and it is better for them to be diagnosed in order to help them, than no diagnosis at all.

There will as far as I can see, unfortunately, always be pseudo-science, but we should not let this interfere with our progression of genuine science.

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ODD has been about in Special Education for a while.
Difficult to diagnose and no specific treatment (as far as I know)

I teach a boy who (we think) has ODD.
You want him to sit down you tell him to stand up.
You want him to be quiet you tell him to shout.
His response to everything is "NO"

😀

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It is part of the human condition to be slightly mental, as we have brains. We all are! 😛

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
ODD has been about in Special Education for a while.
Difficult to diagnose and no specific treatment (as far as I know)

I teach a boy who (we think) has ODD.
You want him to sit down you tell him to stand up.
You want him to be quiet you tell him to shout.
His response to everything is [b]"NO"


😀[/b]
there's people like that at work.

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