I've enjoyed RHP since I've joined and have never had any issues and made a couple of good friends on it but I'm finding myself in a dispute over the antics of one user. A user named Costad has (multiple times) simply begun resigning games for no apparent reason.
The problem this raises is that in the two weeks or so that it's been since I started playing him (clan games), his rating dropped from a 1560 to 729. There is zero upside to beating him and now a huge downside to losing to him. On top of that, he's artificially inflated the ratings of the opponents he resigned to.
The best part? This is at least the fourth time he's done this. I brought this to the attention of the site admins - their ultimate response:
"The problem with this situation is that I don't see that this player has done anything against the terms and conditions of the site - if it could be shown that this player was purposefully disrupting the experience of other players we would immediately take action - in this case however I've not seen anything to suggest that there is any action to be taken."
If they can't see how this is disruptive to other players, then I'm not sure what they are looking at. Instead of dealing with a problem user, they'd rather alienate the good ones. Not the best customer service mantra I've ever heard.
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Originally posted by tkamilPlaying chess is important. Your rating is not. If you want a four-digit number to be important to you, stick to your PIN - or start playing professionally and get a real FIDE rating. The one on this site is nearly meaningless, and a one-game drop or rise completely so.
If they can't see how this is disruptive to other players, then I'm not sure what they are looking at.
Richard
08 Aug 11
Originally posted by tkamilthe issue at hand here, as the admin note confirms, is that he is playing within the rules, he makes a point of mentioning this within his profile so i'm sure you're not the only one to perhaps question the motives...the fact remains that many players here 'entertain' far too many games, realise they cannot manage and eventually resign them, other use this as a tactic..that is underhand, sly and most annoying...it is a cyclic event for many. my own advice is such: if you are drawn against a player that you feel is artificially low in rate, and has at least a good chance of defeating you and perhaps depriving you of 'more than a fair share of points', resign immediately and it won't affect your own rate...of course this is of no help in ongoing games when all of a sudden your one day 1500 opponent is 800 the next. enquire personally to them if it really grates you, explain your objections in a fair but firm manner. there's no reason why you can't ask someone, politely, if they're 'planning that mass resignation soon'...you have a right to at least know what you're up against.
I've enjoyed RHP since I've joined and have never had any issues and made a couple of good friends on it but I'm finding myself in a dispute over the antics of one user. A user named Costad has (multiple times) simply begun resigning games for no apparent reason.
The problem this raises is that in the two weeks or so that it's been since I started playing ...[text shortened]... ther alienate the good ones. Not the best customer service mantra I've ever heard.
Originally posted by Shallow Blue99% of those with a REAL fide four digit rating are neither professional nor have the inclination to be so...
Playing chess is important. Your rating is not. If you want a four-digit number to be important to you, stick to your PIN - or start playing professionally and get a real FIDE rating. The one on this site is nearly meaningless, and a one-game drop or rise completely so.
Richard
Just because you or I couldn't give a rats ass about rate doesn't mean others don't either. Be positive in your remarks for once, for goodness sake...this chap is concerned and is asking for advice, you put folk down with a penchant for putting them off ever posting again here...and as you have this tedious habit of announcing yourself after every post, my name is Dean if you wish to address it.
EDIT: Not nice, is it !!!?
08 Aug 11
Originally posted by Shallow BlueNot really the point Richard - if ratings are meaningless, why have them at all? The title of the thread seemed to attract your attention for a reason.
Playing chess is important. Your rating is not. If you want a four-digit number to be important to you, stick to your PIN - or start playing professionally and get a real FIDE rating. The one on this site is nearly meaningless, and a one-game drop or rise completely so.
Richard
My issue is that if they're going to have ratings, they should actually mean something. When the response from RHP is that they don't find this behavior 'disruptive', I take issue with that.
I've run a gaming website with 500k+ users and I realize customer service is not their favorite task, but I also quickly learned to deal with issues instead of avoiding them. This type of behavior is a problem.
08 Aug 11
Originally posted by tkamilHence, the problem they face of dwindling membership.
Not really the point Richard - if ratings are meaningless, why have them at all? The title of the thread seemed to attract your attention for a reason.
My issue is that if they're going to have ratings, they should actually mean something. When the response from RHP is that they don't find this behavior 'disruptive', I take issue with that.
I've run a g ...[text shortened]... y learned to deal with issues instead of avoiding them. This type of behavior is a problem.
09 Aug 11
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There are players on this site whose selfish attitudes make life uncomfortable for others. Just like in the real world.
We have the same options here as we have in the real world:
ignore - put person on ignore list, inform clan leader you won't accept opponent, immediately resign any games that appear.
complain - to clan leader, in public forums, by PM to opponent's clan leader, by feedback.
do nothing - and let your rating go where it will. 20 completed games later, no significant rating effect will exist.
The last is the least stressful option for you, just as it would be in the real world.
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09 Aug 11
Originally posted by KewpieUnder the B, 4...................BINGO
There are players on this site whose selfish attitudes make life uncomfortable for others. Just like in the real world.
We have the same options here as we have in the real world:
ignore - put person on ignore list, inform clan leader you won't accept opponent, immediately resign any games that appear.
complain - to clan leader, in public forums, by ...[text shortened]... ist.
The last is the least stressful option for you, just as it would be in the real world.
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Originally posted by coquetteThank you Dr. Phil/Judge Judy
I've played him around nine times. Two draws, one loss and the rest were wins. All games were played out the whole way and there was nothing unusual going on at any time.
Something else may be going on with him that has nothing to do with chess.
09 Aug 11
Originally posted by tkamilIf ratings are the utmost importance, imagine how happy he made the players he resigned to!
I've enjoyed RHP since I've joined and have never had any issues and made a couple of good friends on it but I'm finding myself in a dispute over the antics of one user. A user named Costad has (multiple times) simply begun resigning games for no apparent reason.
The problem this raises is that in the two weeks or so that it's been since I started playing ...[text shortened]... ther alienate the good ones. Not the best customer service mantra I've ever heard.
You believe maybe he's resigning games to lure lesser rated players so he can beat them? Lose games to win games... that doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe you're just upset that you missed the "Resign boat."
Silly to me. That's exactly why they show the history of players. When they do this, their history looks like a trip through the Alps!
09 Aug 11
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Originally posted by SmookiePIt happens. They get pleasure out of having an artificially low rating and beating a higher rated player. They are not worried about their win percentage or their rating, except that they like to keep their rating artificially low.
You believe maybe he's resigning games to lure lesser rated players so he can beat them? Lose games to win games... that doesn't make sense to me.
They resign multitude of games that have no meaning to them.
The meaning and pleasure to them is the moments of having a 780 rating and beating a player with a 1500 rating to emotionally disrupt their opponent.
They especially target medium rated players who only play low rated players.
In other words, some sandbaggers target those anal players who have some chess experience and are essentially undefeated by playing primarily beginners. The anal player covets their tilted win/loss record and the 1 or 2 points they gain each game they beat a beginner. When the anal player loses to the sandbagger, the anal player loses points big time, and the sandbagger loves that.
Plus, what I have read here is that people sandbag resign non-clan games or clan games that do no matter in a challenge.
09 Aug 11
Originally posted by tkamilIt is not against the rules. I think it would be a stretch to say that mass resignings are "disrupting the experience of other players."
I've enjoyed RHP since I've joined and have never had any issues and made a couple of good friends on it but I'm finding myself in a dispute over the antics of one user. A user named Costad has (multiple times) simply begun resigning games for no apparent reason.
The problem this raises is that in the two weeks or so that it's been since I started playing ...[text shortened]... ther alienate the good ones. Not the best customer service mantra I've ever heard.
09 Aug 11
Originally posted by moon1969You're missing the point.. this site does a pretty good job of nailing down the strength of the player... if you read between the lines.
It is not against the rules. I think it would be a stretch to say that mass resignings are "disrupting the experience of other players."
There've been times when I've had many losing games, and decided to "emancipate" my opponents..
but I've never purposely LOST games in order to WIN games later LOL!