28 Feb 16
Originally posted by yo its meWhat's in it for them?
Have you ever- do you have any good advice?
It's something similar to a payrise that I am going to ask for, but it's not that. It's a key contract change.
If it is gain neutral for them then it may be fine as long as they are not an idiot. If it is gain negative, then it's probably not going to happen unless you have some workplace or HR law behind you.
Originally posted by yo its meDo you think you are good at your job? Do you think you are better than others that do the same thing within the organization you've contracted to? Can you "afford" to broach the subject? If yes to all I'd say talk to them.
If anyone has been a contractor and is in the mood for helping me, please PM me. I need to ask my boss for something that gives me security but dosen't really advantage the company. Hoping I can word my request in a way that feels like advantage to both.
Originally posted by yo its meHappy to proof read anything you write old chap. Need to convey how it makes good business sense to keep you happy in your job. Timing of course is also critical. Pick your moment.
If anyone has been a contractor and is in the mood for helping me, please PM me. I need to ask my boss for something that gives me security but dosen't really advantage the company. Hoping I can word my request in a way that feels like advantage to both.
Originally posted by yo its meDon't be a cheapo. I charge €250/hour for these matters. At least have the
If anyone has been a contractor and is in the mood for helping me, please PM me. I need to ask my boss for something that gives me security but dosen't really advantage the company. Hoping I can word my request in a way that feels like advantage to both.
decency of putting it out there, in the open, for lulz and stuff.
Originally posted by SeitseHonestly it's not that exciting.
Don't be a cheapo. I charge €250/hour for these matters. At least have the
decency of putting it out there, in the open, for lulz and stuff.
It's a complicated structure and I don't know if the variation I want can happen, but what I was asking was more experienced advice on asking a boss for something. You know, like is there a good way to do that?
Usually what I want to ask for is straightforward and obvious (holiday time, expenses cleared, new resources, to be booked on training) and I just state it.
This is different and I don't want to be pushy in a bad way..... But equally I don't want to carry on with things as they are.
Originally posted by yo its meBe prepared to tell your boss you'll quit if you don't get what you want. Have another job lined up before you do. That was always my strategy.
Have you ever- do you have any good advice?
It's something similar to a payrise that I am going to ask for, but it's not that. It's a key contract change.
Originally posted by yo its meYou're circling around. I am a qualified solicitor and an experienced negotiator.
Honestly it's not that exciting.
It's a complicated structure and I don't know if the variation I want can happen, but what I was asking was more experienced advice on asking a boss for something. You know, like is there a good way to do that?
Usually what I want to ask for is straightforward and obvious (holiday time, expenses cleared, new resources, to ...[text shortened]... want to be pushy in a bad way..... But equally I don't want to carry on with things as they are.
The reason I am asking is because it all depends on what is it that you are
asking. Can it be leveraged? Are there precedents in collective bargaining?
Is it an industry practice? Does it impact your wellbeing? Does it impact the
business operations? etc.
Originally posted by SeitseWell, I asked and the answer was no. So that's that.
You're circling around. I am a qualified solicitor and an experienced negotiator.
The reason I am asking is because it all depends on what is it that you are
asking. Can it be leveraged? Are there precedents in collective bargaining?
Is it an industry practice? Does it impact your wellbeing? Does it impact the
business operations? etc.
No options, the idea I had was not possible to implement.
He sympathised with my predicament but it's just not possible & there I am.
Originally posted by SeitseCollective bargaining is almost dead in America, thanks to Ronald Reagan. He started that snowball rolling 30 years ago, and by now, unions are just weak at the bargaining table. Corporations aren't likely to want to share their profits with the line workers who made them that money.
You're circling around. I am a qualified solicitor and an experienced negotiator.
The reason I am asking is because it all depends on what is it that you are
asking. Can it be leveraged? Are there precedents in collective bargaining?
Is it an industry practice? Does it impact your wellbeing? Does it impact the
business operations? etc.
(I doubt yo its me is in America, but still, the point holds. )
Originally posted by SuzianneBleh, he blew it. Oh well...
Collective bargaining is almost dead in America, thanks to Ronald Reagan. He started that snowball rolling 30 years ago, and by now, unions are just weak at the bargaining table. Corporations aren't likely to want to share their profits with the line workers who made them that money.
(I doubt yo its me is in America, but still, the point holds. )
Luckily, 90% of work positions here in Scandinavia are unionized, so even
non-unionized workers can use parallels to bargain, in soft negotiations at
least.