21 Oct 04
Somewhere out there is a 'Red Sox Formula' where you add this and that and subtract 1918 etc and comes up 2004... I can't find it.
If you see it, Please let me know.
I did find this while looking for it!
Beer and Whiskey
In 1881 the future National League wanted to upgrade its image and target a more upscale fan base by doubling ticket prices, banning gambling, and outlawing alcohol sales. Several team owners who happened to be brewers refused to accept the new rules and banded together to form what would eventually become the American League. The National League attempted to discredit the new league by dubbing it the Beer and Whiskey League. This, of course only made the new league more popular. Duh!
21 Oct 04
Originally posted by PhlabibitThe American Association was a league which predated the American League and had no relation to it. They existed from 1882-1891 until competition from the rival Player's League forced them out of business.
Somewhere out there is a 'Red Sox Formula' where you add this and that and subtract 1918 etc and comes up 2004... I can't find it.
If you see it, Please let me know.
I did find this while looking for it!
[b]Beer and Whiskey
In 1881 the future National League wanted to upgrade its image and target a more upscale fan base by doubling ticket ...[text shortened]... bing it the Beer and Whiskey League. This, of course only made the new league more popular. Duh![/b]
Other professional baseball leagues included:
The Union League 1884
The Player's League 1890
The Federal League 1914-1915
The American League was formed in 1901
The National League was formed in 1876 and was an outgrowth of the National Association, formed in 1871
The integrity of the National Association was seriously compromised by its association with gamblers and lowlifes of various sorts. So when they formed the National League, they banned alchohol sales to improve their image and instead of the players owning the teams, it was turned into a business with businessmen owning the teams. The reserve clause was established at that time, which bound players to one team. Hatred of the reserve clause caused the players to try to form their own rival leagues (the Union Association and the Player's League) but both quickly folded. The American Association did reinstate the sale of alcohol, as you noted, and competed successfully until they too went under.
The Cincinnati Red Stockings were the first professional baseball team, in 1869.
21 Oct 04
Originally posted by rwingettWhat about the Negro League and the the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League.
The American Association was a league which predated the American League and had no relation to it. They existed from 1882-1891 until competition from the rival Player's League forced them out of business.
Other professional baseball leagues included:
The Union League 1884
The Player's League 1890
The Federal League 1914-1915
The American League ...[text shortened]... went under.
The Cincinnati Red Stockings were the first professional baseball team, in 1869.
I think these should be included for histories sake.
Nyxie
21 Oct 04
Originally posted by NyxieYes, the Negro League and the All-American Girl's Professional Baseball League were professional leagues, as are the minor leagues. But none of them is recognized as being "major league" baseball.
What about the Negro League and the the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League.
I think these should be included for histories sake.
Nyxie
22 Oct 04
Originally posted by rwingettWell you'd just said "Other professional baseball leagues included:"
Yes, the Negro League and the All-American Girl's Professional Baseball League were professional leagues, as are the minor leagues. But none of them is recognized as being "major league" baseball.
Good point on the minor leagues I'm sure posting everyone would take up to much space.
Nyxie
23 Oct 04
Originally posted by geniusI'll assume you aren't familiar with the baseball industry for the purposes of my explanation.
major leagues? minor leagues?
please explain...
Every year the 30 major league baseball teams hold a draft of available college players. None of these players are ready for the major league level at that point in their careers so they get assigned to minor league teams to gain more playing experience. Each major league team will be affiliated with several minor league teams at various levels. The Detroit Tigers (for example) have several minor league affiliates (Toledo Mudhens AAA, Erie Seawolves AA, West Michigan Whitecaps A, etc.). The players will work their way up the chain of minor league teams until they are ready for the major leagues, or if they never show any promise they'll languish in the minor leagues their whole careers. The minor leagues are professional in that the players receive a salary (but much smaller than a major league player).
Hockey is similar to baseball in this regard. Each NHL franchise will have minor league teams filled with prospective players.
Football and basketball do not follow this model because players drafted out of college will go directly to the NFL or the NBA. There are no minor league teams for those sports.
23 Oct 04
1 edit
Originally posted by PhlabibitJoe Nuxhall was the youngest player to ever appear in a major league game. He appeared in a game for Cincinnati in 1945 when he was still 15 years old.
If I had to guess... 26 or 28 on average...
Youngest about 19?
Oldest about 44 or 46 (how old is Ricky Henderson, Kurt Schilling, Roger Clemens, and Randy Johnson?!)
Satchell Paige pitched in one game for the Kansas City A's in 1965 when he was 59 years old. I'm sure that must be the oldest.
23 Oct 04
Originally posted by rwingettyeah-U21, it was the one that sunk and they never found...it had all the gold and shizzle in it...
I have no idea what the average is.
U21? What is that, a German U boat?
erm-under21 teams...for players that are, you know, under 21...or people that are recovering from injury...