@torunn saidIf that were the case, torunn, no man would go to war. Good or bad?
Wouldn't being together, man and woman, be sufficient?
I think two genders were created for a reason. Men explore and hunt while women seem to be more attune to
people's needs in an emotional sense. Think children but it goes well beyond that. Nuturing.
@shallow-blue saidMen's wallets are not an issue we often speak of in this country, as I know it - we talk about money and economy regardless of who provides it. You may know that Sweden is a country where a lot of the population live single.
And wallets. Mainly wallets.
@earl-of-trumps saidTrue, we are different and we have to learn to live with that. Our societies change and we have different roles now.
If that were the case, torunn, no man would go to war. Good or bad?
I think two genders were created for a reason. Men explore and hunt while women seem to be more attune to
people's needs in an emotional sense. Think children but it goes well beyond that. Nuturing.
@torunn saidThis thread could go on and on, but I think it is difficult to talk about the role of man without including
True, we are different and we have to learn to live with that. Our societies change and we have different roles now.
the role of woman, as the way I see it, the two must work together to successfully grow a village.
It's also self evident that men and women have different abilities and the two as a team have all the skills
working for the two (or more) of them.
Good thread, torunn.
@earl-of-trumps saidThat is the ideal situation of course. 🙂
This thread could go on and on, but I think it is difficult to talk about the role of man without including
the role of woman, as the way I see it, the two must work together to successfully grow a village.
It's also self evident that men and women have different abilities and the two as a team have all the skills
working for the two (or more) of them.
Good thread, torunn.
@earl-of-trumps saidAgreed Earl excellent thread.
This thread could go on and on, but I think it is difficult to talk about the role of man without including
the role of woman, as the way I see it, the two must work together to successfully grow a village.
It's also self evident that men and women have different abilities and the two as a team have all the skills
working for the two (or more) of them.
Good thread, torunn.
I think you summed it up well.
The woman and man must work together lean on each other at times to make it work.
As torunn has stated times have changed and both the woman and man have to work to make ends meet in many cases.
There use to be an expression: "it takes a village to raise a child"! I believe there is a lot of truth to that saying.
-VR
@very-rusty saidVery wise expression, it all starts with the upbringing.
Agreed Earl excellent thread.
I think you summed it up well.
The women and man must work together lean on each other at times to make it work.
As torunn has stated times have changed and both the woman and man have to work to make ends meet in many cases.
There use to be an expression: "it takes a village to raise a child"! I believe their is a lot of truth to that saying.
-VR
Be a man comes from the days of gender rolls. It has a meaning, but that meaning has been rejected by Western Societies in general so does not really having meaning anymore.
What has it traditionally meant? Different things to different people.
Personally, I believe it used to mean shut up and get the job done, it does not matter if you are hurt or not.
Some people believe it means to beat up the other person with your fists.
I think the Dutch had the saying "Man at night, Man in the morning". It had to do with getting drunk and functioning the next day.
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@very-rusty saidBy calling these (courage, strength and integrity) "manly" qualities, are you saying that women do not, or cannot, or should not, display them?
I believe manly means having courage and strength. Correct me if I am wrong but would a woman not want a man to have both of these qualities? Integrity of course would be up there on the list for sure!
-VR
I would think that men would want women to have these qualities as well, but perusing these forums, maybe not.
@suzianne saidThere is potentially an unresolvable conflict within this idea. Not because the idea is wrong imo, but because sometimes there is no right answer.
By calling these (courage, strength and integrity) "manly" qualities, are you saying that women do not, or cannot, or should not, display them?
I would think that men would want women to have these qualities as well, but perusing these forums, maybe not.
If you want men to view a quality as manly within your culture (e.g. integrity from Torunn's post) do you automatically create a different problem by inferring it is not equally possible in women. Is it possibly for a culture to view a quality as manly without harming the perception of women in the culture?