I live in a rented house and a few weeks ago the boiler went. POO! Anyway, the landlady asked her friend, who is also a friendly acquaintance of mine, to have look at it. He suggested that the cheapest alternative would be to have an immersion heater fitted. So she agreed and an immersion heater was fitted. However, whilst I was in the pub on the day of him fitting it, I received a text message from him. It said something along the lines of 'Hi Jim, I've fitted the immersion heater and it's up and running, but I smelt gas in the kitchen, so I asked my Brother to come round with his gas detector and I felt it best to disconnect the oven, as it was leaking. They determined that it would take two days for an explosive mixture to build up.
Problem is that we still have no new cooker. The landlady ( and friend) is in no financial state to buy a newone for thehouse. Nor are we.
Sooooooo, we have been leaving the cooker unplugged and just connecting it, via it's bayonet fitting, when we use it, then disconnecting it again. Is this in any way dangerous, or is constantly disconnecting and reconnecting to a gas bayonet fiting a safe practise?
Cheers
Jimmy.
Originally posted by jimslyp69It eventually will give way but you should be able to do at least a hundred cycles of connect/disconnect. So in the short term you are ok.
I live in a rented house and a few weeks ago the boiler went. POO! Anyway, the landlady asked her friend, who is also a friendly acquaintance of mine, to have look at it. He suggested that the cheapest alternative would be to have an immersion heater fitted. So she agreed and an immersion heater was fitted. However, whilst I was in the pub on the day of ...[text shortened]... disconnecting and reconnecting to a gas bayonet fiting a safe practise?
Cheers
Jimmy.
But you should get it fixed as soon as possible.
The good news is you will be able to hear and smell a larger gas discharge if it starts up real bad. Just don't light up, eh. It wouldl be a good time to quit smoking if you already do!
Originally posted by sonhouseWhere did you get the figure of 100 connect/ diconnect cyles from? IS this pretty much official?
It eventually will give way but you should be able to do at least a hundred cycles of connect/disconnect. So in the short term you are ok.
But you should get it fixed as soon as possible.
The good news is you will be able to hear and smell a larger gas discharge if it starts up real bad. Just don't light up, eh. It wouldl be a good time to quit smoking if you already do!
We started this practice about five weeks ago. I reckon that on average we use the oven twice a day, sooooooo that's roughly 70 bayonet abuses so far. 😕 Give it another two weeks and perhaps all of Bowmann's wishes will come true.
As for giving up smoking, I'd rather be blown into oblivion than suffer emphysema or lung cancer, so I have yet another excuse to continue. 😀
Thanks for your advice. 🙂
Originally posted by sonhouseIs this your professional advice as someone who makes their living as a plummer? I doubt it. My profession from 1969-1994 was working as a Pipefitter and supervisor over skilled trades.
It eventually will give way but you should be able to do at least a hundred cycles of connect/disconnect. So in the short term you are ok.
But you should get it fixed as soon as possible.
The good news is you will be able to hear and smell a larger gas discharge if it starts up real bad. Just don't light up, eh. It wouldl be a good time to quit smoking if you already do!
I sincerely doubt that any professional would make the statement "you should be able to do at least a hundred cycles of connect/disconnect". First of all, it's simply a dumb thing to say. YOU haven't seen the condition of the connections!
My advice to jimslyp69 is to listen to the people who are professionals in their trade. His whole family could DIE listening to somebody who doesn't know what they are talking about.
KA-BOOM!!!
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Originally posted by jimslyp69I work in a cleanroom and use connectors of all kinds including natural gas and I see a continual wear on these kind of brass fittings, I have seen what happens after a few dozen disconnects. The main thing is check each reconnect for leaks by sound and smell.
Where did you get the figure of 100 connect/ diconnect cyles from? IS this pretty much official?
We started this practice about five weeks ago. I reckon that on average we use the oven twice a day, sooooooo that's roughly 70 bayonet abuses so far. 😕 Give it another two weeks and perhaps all of Bowmann's wishes will come true.
As for giving up smoking, I sema or lung cancer, so I have yet another excuse to continue. 😀
Thanks for your advice. 🙂
Bowman suffers from ADD, anything more then ten words in a row freaks him out.
I also said get it fixed as soon as possible.
One question, you said 'bayonet' fitting. Can you elaborate on what that is? A compression fitting? A quick disconnect? There are so many kinds out there I am still finding new ones after 20 years working in class 10 cleanrooms. I work on industrial gas burner air handling humidifiers, air heaters, water heaters designed to heat water to 80 degrees F for the purpose of maximizing lifespan of filters. It would take me a long time to list my experience in this kind of work. I have pretty much done it all.
Originally posted by sonhouseOkay, point taken. These fittings are brass and it is a relatively soft metal, so what you say rings true (no pun intended).
I work in a cleanroom and use connectors of all kinds including natural gas and I see a continual wear on these kind of brass fittings, I have seen what happens after a few dozen disconnects. The main thing is check each reconnect for leaks by sound and smell.
Bowman suffers from ADD, anything more then ten words in a row freaks him out.
I think on the strength of this, we will discontinue this practise and opt for 'ding' meals until we get something sorted.
Thanks again.
Originally posted by jimslyp69Sure, anytime. When you originally said 'bayonet' I was thinking of the kind of connector that is a tapered shaft you stick a hose on.
Okay, point taken. These fittings are brass and it is a relatively soft metal, so what you say rings true (no pun intended).
I think on the strength of this, we will discontinue this practise and opt for 'ding' meals until we get something sorted.
Thanks again.
That kind you can do forever if the hose is ok but the brass compression fittings don't have that much reliability as far as connects and disconnects, they are supposed to connect once and leave it alone but you CAN disconnect if you are careful but I have a LOT of experience in that kind of thing and I personally can tell how well it is connected but inexperienced people should get it fixed sooner rather than later.
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Originally posted by arrakisThat's one more thing you are an 'expert' on then isn't it? I'll add it to the list.
Is this your professional advice as someone who makes their living as a plummer? I doubt it. My profession from 1969-1994 was working as a Pipefitter and supervisor over skilled trades.
I sincerely doubt that any professional would make the statement "you should be able to do at least a hundred cycles of connect/disconnect". First of all, it could DIE listening to somebody who doesn't know what they are talking about.
KA-BOOM!!!
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I especially like how you rubbish everyone else's comments claim to be an expert and yet don't give any comments of your own.
Originally posted by XanthosNZ-> Chess itself
That's one more thing you are an 'expert' on then isn't it? I'll add it to the list.
-> Chess Engines
-> Computers
-> Women
-> Plumbing
-> Giving draws to cripples
-> Being a total burke
I especially like how you rubbish everyone else's comments claim to be an expert and yet don't give any comments of your own.
-> Trying to look like George Lucas (Star Wars freak?)
Originally posted by sonhouseIt's the type of fitting that is kind of spring loaded. It has a black tube with a brass fitting on the end. It fits in exactly like a bayonet light bulb would. Line up the nodes on the rim of it, push in, turn through 90 degrees then it slots back in two a couple of grooves, if ya know what I mean.
Sure, anytime. When you originally said 'bayonet' I was thinking of the kind of connector that is a tapered shaft you stick a hose on.
That kind you can do forever if the hose is ok but the brass compression fittings don't have that much reliability as far as connects and disconnects, they are supposed to connect once and leave it alone but you CAN disconn ...[text shortened]... w well it is connected but inexperienced people should get it fixed sooner rather than later.
Originally posted by XanthosNZ-> 1. Chess Engines
That's one more thing you are an 'expert' on then isn't it? I'll add it to the list.
-> 1. Chess Engines
-> 2. Computers
-> 3. Women
-> 4. Plumbing
-> 5. Giving draws to cripples
-> 6. Being a total burke
I especially like how you rubbish everyone else's comments claim to be an expert and yet don't give any comments of your own.
-> 2. Computers
-> 3. Women
-> 4. Plumbing
-> 5. Giving draws to cripples
-> 6. Being a total burke
You are correct except for items #3 and #6. With all my experience I cannot refer you to anyone who is an expert on item #3... BUT! I can tell everyone who wants to know that they can talk to the expert, XanthosNZ, for item #6! 😵
Makes me feel good when I best you like this. 😀
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One thing is,in the UK [which I believe is where you are] you have to be a CORGI registered [not a dog] gas fitter to connect/disconnect gas fittings.
I saw a prgram on tv just like that, it was one big con trick - nothing wrong at all with the cooker. I would be highly suspicious if I were you - funny how it decided to become faulty just as he was there!
I think you can get one of the main companies [like British Gas] to check for leaks, free of any charge.
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveFor one, this bloke is friend. Also, I cannot see how it was a con job, as he has not attempted to make any money out of it. He just said 'It's leaking so i've disconnected it. You'll have to get someone to sort it, I'm not touching it though cos I'm not CORGI registered'.
One thing is,in the UK [which I believe is where you are] you have to be a CORGI registered [not a dog] gas fitter to connect/disconnect gas fittings.
I saw a prgram on tv just like that, it was one big con trick - nothing wrong at all with the cooker. I would be highly suspicious if I were you - funny how it decided to become faulty just as he wa ...[text shortened]... you can get one of the main companies [like British Gas] to check for leaks, free of any charge.