Originally posted by dazza666Well, you haven't really said anything on-topic yet. Mostly, you've just been defending your spelling.
no one HAS to read my musings! and if you had a brain you would know im not talking tripe, got nothing nice to say or anything useful go away!
Say something relevant, then I'll analyse it for tripe. Did you know tripe has to be washed thoroughly to make it suitable for human consumption?
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Originally posted by dazza666maybe you should take your own advice.
no one HAS to read my musings! and if you had a brain you would know im not talking tripe, got nothing nice to say or anything useful go away!
you have contributed nothing to this thread, nothing. you claim to want cannabis legalised in england, you also claim to want a debate on the subject but you haven't actually said anything to debate about only bad grammar.
where is your argument? make your case as to why you think cannabis should be legal and then we'll talk. otherwise stop polluting the forum with drivel and well as you put it, go away.
contrary to trev 33s beliefs that cannabis is the most readily available drug: unfortunatly in england now, especially most of the south of england, it is actually much easier to buy cocaine than it is cannabis, i know this for a fact and is the reason why the government has now put adverts on television showing the bad effects and bad sides of the cocaine industry[the advert with the dog narrating].
the government know cocaine is absolutely everywhere now because they totally messed up by having such a clamp down on weed dealers/growers and smokers in this country, that it has essentially made it easier for cocaine dealers to pass by unnoticed and lower the price. because of this many people are turning to cocaine because it is simply everywhere now and everyone knows someone that can get it. you cant go into a pub without getting offered cocaine or without knowing someone else who is doing some. and there are a lot of drinkers in this country! you just cant get good weed anymore, if you can its very very expensive due to the governments crackdown and thus making it difficult to supply.
if the government left the weed smokers/dealers alone in peace it would then enable them to concentrate on the harder drugs, ie coke, crack, heroin and catching the real criminals and scumbags in this country.
decriminalising cannabis would also give our government much more tax money which could be pumped into our failing NHS or maybe building more prisons to keep the real scum out of societies way rather than releasing dangerous criminals after a few years!
also if it was decriminilised all the bad SKUNK that has been contaminated with chemicals and such like, that in some cases has driven some people mad! would be no more, as the market would become very competitive and growers wouldnt have the same constraints that they do now, so it would be grown and cured properly otherwise they would nt be able to sell it.
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Originally posted by dazza666contrary to trev 33s beliefs that cannabis is the most readily available drug: unfortunatly in england now, especially most of the south of england, it is actually much easier to buy cocaine than it is cannabis, i know this for a fact and is the reason why the government has now put adverts on television showing the bad effects and bad sides of the cocaine industry[the advert with the dog narrating].
prove it. i can grow cannabis anywhere with a little water and some sunlight. can you make your own cocaine? in fact can anyone make their own cocaine in england? no. plus a couple of phone calls and i will know yet another person who is growing at home and will sell a little. is this person a dealer? not really. hell most of them will give it away for free and it will be a better quality than the crap that dealers sell.
the government know cocaine is absolutely everywhere now because they totally messed up by having such a clamp down on weed dealers/growers and smokers in this country, that it has essentially made it easier for cocaine dealers to pass by unnoticed and lower the price. because of this many people are turning to cocaine because it is simply everywhere now and everyone knows someone that can get it. you cant go into a pub without getting offered cocaine or without knowing someone else who is doing some. and there are a lot of drinkers in this country! you just cant get good weed anymore, if you can its very very expensive due to the governments crackdown and thus making it difficult to supply.
coke was always everywhere and it was always quite easy to get. if you know a cannabis dealer than you know a coke dealer. they don't just deal one product. most of them will be dealing everything and anything that they can get their hands on. it may be that coke is going through a popular phase at the moment, i don't know. the fact is that if the government wanted to stop the flow of coke in england they could, as it's not made here it's imported. it's not the dealers fault for either the price of the product or supply of the product around england it's the government's. the same can't be said for weed, if you want quality weed you grow your own or find a contact who is growing a little privately that will let you have some. dealers don't care what their product is like as long as people are buying it and they will charge as much as they want as long as people will pay it.
if the government left the weed smokers/dealers alone in peace it would then enable them to concentrate on the harder drugs, ie coke, crack, heroin and catching the real criminals and scumbags in this country.
do you think they don't know who the dealers are? of course they do. the dealers are not the problem it's the supply source. put a dealer in jail and another one will pop up over night, stop the product from reaching the dealer and there will soon be nothing for drug dealers to sell.
decriminalising cannabis would also give our government much more tax money which could be pumped into our failing NHS or maybe building more prisons to keep the real scum out of societies way rather than releasing dangerous criminals after a few years!
that would only happen if the government took control of the product and sold it legally over the counter like a packet of cigarettes. just decriminalising it would only help the dealers.
also if it was decriminilised all the bad SKUNK that has been contaminated with chemicals and such like, that in some cases has driven some people mad! would be no more, as the market would become very competitive and growers wouldnt have the same constraints that they do now, so it would be grown and cured properly otherwise they wouldn't be able to sell it
it's possible, either that or skunk would become unbelievably cheap and it would become the drug of choice amongst the poor. it's your fault (not yours personally but the skunk buying public) that skunk even exists, the stuff is crap. stop buying it and they stop making it.
i haven't read anything in your post that would sway my decision on legalizing cannabis if i was a member of parliament. this is who your argument should appeal to, not the dealer or even the cannabis buying public.
i dont need to prove it , because i know it trev 33, cocaine in london and the home counties is on the boom pal. i know a lot of people and everyone says the same from far and wide in all the areas ive mentioned above: you can get coke at any time of day at any place. but try and get cannabis and it will take you lots of running around and is a real effort to find, so that in itself is proof enuff
and you cant just go and grow weed 'anywhere' as you put it, with 'a lil water and some sunlight' what a joke!
and actually if you were a chemist you could make your own coke in this country.
and the government cant just stop the influx of cocaine if 'they really wanted to' dont you think they would have done it by now? its called supply and demand, if people want something, others will sell it and will get it in to this country no matter how hard the government tries to stop them. and no not all dealers sell 'everything and anything they can get their hands on'
for example a coke dealer wouldnt bother wasting his time selling cannabis as it makes no money due to the high costs involved and most cannabis dealers dont want to get into selling coke, partly because it carries a much higher sentence, and otherwise they would already be selling that rather than cannabis
and the government dont have to make it their product to make taxes, look at holland with the coffeeshops over there, they sell it and their government taxes them handsomely, all the government need to do is allow coffeeshops to open and sell it, they then sit back and reap the rewards and thus giving them more time and manpower to concentrate on catching hard drug dealers and their sources, then perhaps we could put some real criminals in jail rather than people that like weed